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Thread: LGT Final: Louisiana 31, USM 34

  1. #376

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    Quote Originally Posted by KajunKrazy View Post
    Louie Cook would have been a great hire following Stokley. That would have been a home run IMO. One of the best offensive minds in football.
    LoL! Homerun, huh? As evidenced by all those big schools hiring him away?
    Hollywood should make a movie. "One of the best offensive minds in all of football goes completely unnoticed and his greatness never realized." I swear, on days like today, I want what some of yall are smoking.

  2. #377

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginScotsman View Post
    Not sure what the "martin hall hates success" talk is about. Sure, they do some infuriating and head scratching things to alienate fans, but it's 2023 and they know athletic success lends itself directly to university success. I know winning is important to Dr. Maggard, to the teams and they have had success in several sports for some time. Maybe I'm missing something and just like I didn't want to buy into the "Dez isn't the guy" talk, I can be swayed.
    Take a look at how this game was promoted. First time hosting a new rival since 2001, and they send out a massive email to fans and offer $10 tickets to a faculty that barely knows we have a football team. And let's not get started on the ticky tack back-and-forth between the administration and students/Greeks.

  3. #378

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Take a look at how this game was promoted. First time hosting a new rival since 2001, and they send out a massive email to fans and offer $10 tickets to a faculty that barely knows we have a football team. And let's not get started on the ticky tack back-and-forth between the administration and students/Greeks.
    I get that. Was more talking about one the field success.

    The lack of promotion, total game day experience, all of it, is awful. Yes.

    I do think the goal is to win on the field, though. It would be crazy not to and as much as UL feels like the Twilight zone, I can't buy into the notion that the admin a whole is ____ed when we win championships and thrilled when we tank.

    ....although, they've never recognized that the 2021 football season ever happened

  4. #379

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    And honestly I feel terrible for Des. The university did the greatest disservice to him possible. He should've been released to go coach at other places. Gain more experience. Create a bigger and better circle of qualified connections. Become a coordinator somewhere. THEN....maybe at some future juncture, the time is right and he is actually qualified to coach here. Ask yourself. Napier took the qualified coaches he wanted to Florida. If Des was truly ready and qualified, why didn't he take him with him also? He didn't. So, now.....where does Des go after this? You think he gets another shot at head coach somewhere? They put him in a bad spot. I can't blame him for taking the shot and the money, but......
    I promise, the University wasn't thinking of Des' best interest. Hell, without them knowing, they weren't even putting themselves in the best position. But as we all know and have learned.....they never do. If you're expecting something to change....you're insane. And I wonder how many people here complaining are the same ones that applauded the hire and calling everyone else, bad negative fans.


  5. #380

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    Just like you can like Dez, and not like the hire….you can also refrain from immediately negative public reaction while also being privately concerned. The lack of loud negative immediate response does not equal applauding the hire.

    Once he was hired, do any of you actually think the administration cared one bit what the reaction from a few posters in ragin pagin was? Do y’all think we could have changed their minds? Come on.


  6. #381

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Ask yourself. Napier took the qualified coaches he wanted to Florida. If Des was truly ready and qualified, why didn't he take him with him also? He didn't.
    This simply doesn't make sense. If Napier took Des with him to be an assistant at Florida, how would that mean that Des would make a good head coach? If anything, it only means that Des was a really good assistant. And in that sense, Des was clearly a pretty good assistance at UL because he was part of Napier's success. Yet, to everyone's point, he's clearly falling short as a head coach.

    The logic simply doesn't connect.

  7. #382

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    Just like you can like Dez, and not like the hire….you can also refrain from immediately negative public reaction while also being privately concerned. The lack of loud negative immediate response does not equal applauding the hire.

    Once he was hired, do any of you actually think the administration cared one bit what the reaction from a few posters in ragin pagin was? Do y’all think we could have changed their minds? Come on.
    Once again. This wasn't directed at you peesonally

  8. #383

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    And honestly I feel terrible for Des. The university did the greatest disservice to him possible. He should've been released to go coach at other places. Gain more experience. Create a bigger and better circle of qualified connections. Become a coordinator somewhere. THEN....maybe at some future juncture, the time is right and he is actually qualified to coach here. Ask yourself. Napier took the qualified coaches he wanted to Florida. If Des was truly ready and qualified, why didn't he take him with him also? He didn't. So, now.....where does Des go after this? You think he gets another shot at head coach somewhere? They put him in a bad spot. I can't blame him for taking the shot and the money, but......
    I promise, the University wasn't thinking of Des' best interest. Hell, without them knowing, they weren't even putting themselves in the best position. But as we all know and have learned.....they never do. If you're expecting something to change....you're insane. And I wonder how many people here complaining are the same ones that applauded the hire and calling everyone else, bad negative fans.
    I liked the hire, it was a big risk that I acknowledged. But, I expected the on field fundamentals and discipline to continue, it has not.

    Billy was a crap play caller too. But we were always prepared to play and adjustments were made in a timely fashion. Des and staff have shown glimpses, but the SBC is a drastically better league now than it was under Bustle.

    The athletic departments job is to put a winning product the fans want to see. Have enough fans to be as close to self sufficient as possible. We fail in football and basketball. We excel in spring sports and volleyball.

    Last night was a total embarrassment and should be viewed as such. Maybe 7k at the game, 5-3 and if you watched on TV you’d have never known we won a game. All in all it was a pathetic and embarrassing statement by the staff and admin.

    We cannot continue to operate this way. It’s not sustainable. New stadium will not change anything until the university figures out how to connect to Acadiana.

    We’ve already seen the blueprint. We shuttered that strategy and have gone the opposite direction.

    Regardless, something needs to be done.

  9. #384

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginScotsman View Post
    I get that. Was more talking about one the field success.

    The lack of promotion, total game day experience, all of it, is awful. Yes.

    I do think the goal is to win on the field, though. It would be crazy not to and as much as UL feels like the Twilight zone, I can't buy into the notion that the admin a whole is ____ed when we win championships and thrilled when we tank.

    ....although, they've never recognized that the 2021 football season ever happened
    It’s not the winning that is the problem. It’s the reaction to the winning that causes havoc.

  10. #385

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB View Post
    This simply doesn't make sense. If Napier took Des with him to be an assistant at Florida, how would that mean that Des would make a good head coach? If anything, it only means that Des was a really good assistant. And in that sense, Des was clearly a pretty good assistance at UL because he was part of Napier's success. Yet, to everyone's point, he's clearly falling short as a head coach.

    The logic simply doesn't connect.
    Geezus. If he wasn't even a great assistant to take with him, then he damn sure wasn't gonna be a great head coach. But Ill be damned if we didnt hire him to be one. The logic is lost on you.

  11. #386

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Geezus. If he wasn't even a great assistant to take with him, then he damn sure wasn't gonna be a great head coach. But Ill be damned if we didnt hire him to be one. The logic is lost on you.
    That's not what you said. You said that if he was "ready and qualified" (to be a head coach), Napier would have taken him to Florida. Nice try.

  12. #387

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Once again. This wasn't directed at you peesonally
    Understood…mine was to the larger group as well.

  13. #388

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    How do we know Napier didn’t ask Dez to come with him? We really don’t know the sequence of events. Dez has young kids, maybe he wants them to grow up near their grandparents.

    That doesn’t mean he should have been made head coach, but I really don’t think we can read much into him not going be an assistant for Napier.


  14. #389

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    Just like you can like Dez, and not like the hire….you can also refrain from immediately negative public reaction while also being privately concerned. The lack of loud negative immediate response does not equal applauding the hire.

    Once he was hired, do any of you actually think the administration cared one bit what the reaction from a few posters in ragin pagin was? Do y’all think we could have changed their minds? Come on.
    No but the empty seats should have been a sign to them

  15. #390

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    Quote Originally Posted by facelessjonmoon View Post
    No but the empty seats should have been a sign to them
    Unfortunately, the Cajun Dome has been empty for 10 years, and Martin Hall hasn't cared.

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