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  1. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    In a completely separate post, that is exactly what I told Kyle when he first proposed it. You don't ever want to take a kid that has the opportunity to be your full-time starting QB at some point in his career and move him to another position. LL2, was a different situation, he was never going to really have the opportunity to start here, with Ben, Chandler, Lunch and Zeon on the roster. The move was mutually beneficial for all parties. But moving a guy who is your projected 2023 starter and your #2 guys this season to another position only means that he is not getting reps at QB, so if you need him at some point this season and/or expect him to start next season, the only thing that does for you is regress any progress he was making at QB and cause him to be so much further behind when he does become your QB.

    There are only ever 2 reasons to move any player from 1 position to another. #1 and the most important reason is because that player has a special skill set as an athlete and you need to get him on the field, but he is buried so far down on the depth chart because of the talent you currently have that he is probably never going to see the field at the position he came to you as. That was never the case with ZC, like it was with LL2. ZC was battling for the #2 position since he walked into the Cajun athletic facility. The #2 reason is because you are so depleted at another position, and you don't have any other options. Again, this was not the case with the Cajuns, as we are learning the WR position even without LL2, is a position we don't need to worry about. Robert Williams and Harvey Broussard and Charles Robertson to some extent are going to be what we expected from Kyren Lacy, Errol Rogers and Donta Fleming, but never happened. I think these three that are currently on the team are going to be special not in years to come, but this year. The fact that we have veterans that they can learn from like Leblanc, Bernard and Cambre only make it better for these young men.

    Kyle was wrong on both reasons to move ZC. ZC is a QB and was expected to at some point, either earlier or later be the QB for the Cajuns, obviously this happened sooner than we wanted or expected it to occur and secondly, Kyle said our WR group was weak, and he would immediately be an impact player at that position. I kept saying, he was wrong, that group is going to be special. It has proven so far to be that way and that was with Robert Williams missing last week and a new QB playing.

    I might have been wrong about who the guy was that was going to be the next Michael Jefferson, I still believe Robert is going to have a great year if he can stay healthy, but Harvey Broussard is going to be redunculous!!!!
    I don’t remember the circumstances of the depth chart, but that is exactly what Bustle did with MD in 2006. He played some in the slot and I want to say he played a little DB as well.

  2. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    I don’t remember the circumstances of the depth chart, but that is exactly what Bustle did with MD in 2006. He played some in the slot and I want to say he played a little DB as well.
    Using Ricky bustle as the judgement for what coaches should or shouldn’t do is probably a mistake.

  3. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Using Ricky bustle as the judgement for what coaches should or shouldn’t do is probably a mistake.
    Wasn’t implying that we should do so.

  4. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Using Ricky bustle as the judgement for what coaches should or shouldn’t do is probably a mistake.
    With all due respect, Dave. Rickey did have some talent on all 3 sides of the ball.

  5. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    I don’t remember the circumstances of the depth chart, but that is exactly what Bustle did with MD in 2006. He played some in the slot and I want to say he played a little DB as well.
    That’s not what BWK said though, he just changing his story. He said ZC should be moved to WR. Not play it a few plays here and there to get him on the field.

  6. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    .... I don't think we have any primadonnas in the wr room. Seem to be a bunch of lunch pail guys.
    Lunch Pail guys/Water Hose guys ?

    Desormeaux/Robichaux ?


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  7. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    He looked good Saturday avoiding that tendency. He had a couple dodgy choices, but a couple where he didn’t force it when he could have.

    I know defenses will game plan differently for him and that will have an affect, but we will also have more time to game plan with him. Also the fact defenses will game plan for him means they will be forced to factor his running ability in, so if we are smart we can exploit openings created by that.

    I agree….the key for him will be learning when to take risks and when not to. But this guy reminds me of Dez. They knew he could run too…and still couldn’t stop him.
    He was very fortunate Saturday to not get picked when he threw it behind the LeBlanc kid. The ball hit the DB in the numbers and he dropped it.

  8. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Using Ricky bustle as the judgement for what coaches should or shouldn’t do is probably a mistake.
    When he got here, we had nothing. Not even our pride.

    Rickey left this place infinitely better than the way he found it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When he got here, we had nothing. Not even our pride.

    Rickey left this place infinitely better than the way he found it.
    A Great man and a good coach. Just wish he could have got that bowl game. He deserved it.

  10. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When he got here, we had nothing. Not even our pride.

    Rickey left this place infinitely better than the way he found it.
    Preach.

    Bustle was a great offensive coach. Anytime you can be in the top 5 nationally in explosive plays as a run first, pass in an emergency offense, you are a damn good offensive coach. Defense was another story altogether.

  11. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When he got here, we had nothing. Not even our pride.

    Rickey left this place infinitely better than the way he found it.
    I don't disagree with that.

  12. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Preach.

    Bustle was a great offensive coach. Anytime you can be in the top 5 nationally in explosive plays as a run first, pass in an emergency offense, you are a damn good offensive coach. Defense was another story altogether.
    When Desmo, Fenroy and Chery were all healthy, that might have been the sickest offense I've seen at Cajun Field.

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