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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    This all has more to do with da boots ego and him being right than it has with bombs away Ben being QB1...besides, we had no idea DaBoot was a QB mechanics guru...
    No dude

    I am at every basketball and football game
    I wanna win and whatever gives us our best chance

    These types of forums are mainly for people that give opinions

    A few like to mock me because basketball didn’t make it to the Sweet 16 however, if people know the sport of basketball, they would realize that the team was a sweet 16 caliber team

    Anyway .. onto work
    Be well

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    So, let's put things into perspective here. First Ben Woolridge didn't participate in the spring while recovery from ACL surgery.

    Second, he didn't participate in summer workouts either. When you consider the amount of throwing to receivers in repetitions he's missed, that is quite a large number of reps he has missed.

    Thirdly, he wasn't supposed to have been cleared to begin practice until September and he began practice once cleared medically a month ahead of schedule. Also wearing a yellow jersey early in fall practice is nothing like playing in a real game once the whistle is blown.

    Considering all the above facts, and the play of the OL, TE's and RB's lack of blocking in the game, he was indeed off platform at times. But he did throw 3 really nice deep balls for scores. Do I think he will develop much more as a 5-year senior, no. Do I think he will improve his throws and mechanics, yes assuming his teammates do a better job of blocking and catching the football.

    As for your assessment of Zeon and Fields, I do believe that Zeon will eventually play some snaps this season, either because of injury or out of necessity.

    As for Fields, love the guy but things weren't better with him last year. While he had some success in the bowl game, they moved him in the pocket the majority of the time because he can't see over the line. And he is not as good of runner as Woolridge and Chriss, we can put that to rest now.
    Well said. CF also had his chance as a starter. As I remember, he was eventually benched for BW. Before the start of that season, I was in CF's corner. I thought he was the best QB on the field. Every time he came in to relieve Levi, he came in slinging the ball and moving the offense. Again, even though his playing time was on a very limited basis, he appeared to be ready to go and had a full grasp of the offense. Fast forward to the following year after Levi had graduated, CF was named the starting QB. I was on his band wagon. However, in all the games he played, he looked like a deer in headlights, who didn't have a clue of how to run the offense nor a command of the offensive playbook. So, I was wrong about CF. I knew after BW was injured and CF started the bowl game, the chances of winning were slim to none. CF is not a college QB. And I hope we don't have to go through that again.

  3. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBoot View Post
    No dude

    I am at every basketball and football game
    I wanna win and whatever gives us our best chance

    These types of forums are mainly for people that give opinions

    A few like to mock me because basketball didn’t make it to the Sweet 16 however, if people know the sport of basketball, they would realize that the team was a sweet 16 caliber team

    Anyway .. onto work
    Be well
    The coaching will never be good enough to get us to the Sweet 16.

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSaint08 View Post
    Well said. CF also had his chance as a starter. As I remember, he was eventually benched for BW. Before the start of that season, I was in CF's corner. I thought he was the best QB on the field. Every time he came in to relieve Levi, he came in slinging the ball and moving the offense. Again, even though his playing time was on a very limited basis, he appeared to be ready to go and had a full grasp of the offense. Fast forward to the following year after Levi had graduated, CF was named the starting QB. I was on his band wagon. However, in all the games he played, he looked like a deer in headlights, who didn't have a clue of how to run the offense nor a command of the offensive playbook. So, I was wrong about CF. I knew after BW was injured and CF started the bowl game, the chances of winning were slim to none. CF is not a college QB. And I hope we don't have to go through that again.
    Yet, if we don’t have lose those 2 fumbles we win.

    CF had the same amount of TD’s passing despite 62 less attempts. The same amount of rushing TD’s and the same amount of INTs. The yards per pass were less than a yard difference.

    They are essentially the same QB. Acting like BW is some phenom, when he hasn’t shown to be one is silly. They are both decent QBs. I’d be willing to bet, both will have significant time this season.

  5. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Yet, if we don’t have lose those 2 fumbles we win.

    CF had the same amount of TD’s passing despite 62 less attempts. The same amount of rushing TD’s and the same amount of INTs. The yards per pass were less than a yard difference.

    They are essentially the same QB. Acting like BW is some phenom, when he hasn’t shown to be one is silly. They are both decent QBs. I’d be willing to bet, both will have significant time this season.
    Well, I never insinuated BW is some phenom. But he is head and shoulders above (no pun intended) CF. And I know you don't know me, but I was so much in CF corner for him to be the starting QB last year. Met him. He is a friend of my nephew's. Guy is an awesome person. No one was rooting for him more than me, except for him and his family. But he looked completely lost and overwhelmed once he became the starter. Not sure why, but he had lost that confidence and cockiness he had when subbing for Levi. He might have them back now, but he did not in the bowl game. Hopefully, BW just wins baby. Doesn't have to be pretty, but just win. All Levi did was win. And yet people crucified him on this board because of who knows? If Ben can just win, that is all that matters. And the rest of this will be a mute point, or as Joey says a moo point.

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Wooldridge is the right guy but your readiness argument is shallow.

    Jake Dehomme was 4th string when coaches opted for him.
    Not completely true. Coaches knew Jake was best QB on team as a freshman. They simply hoped to redshirt him. When the 3 other guys threw 5 picks in the first half of Game 1 in 1993, they knew they had no choice but to play Jake. I am reading the book on Louie Cook right now. That is story Coach Cook relays in book.

  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSaint08 View Post
    Well, I never insinuated BW is some phenom. But he is head and shoulders above (no pun intended) CF. And I know you don't know me, but I was so much in CF corner for him to be the starting QB last year. Met him. He is a friend of my nephew's. Guy is an awesome person. No one was rooting for him more than me, except for him and his family. But he looked completely lost and overwhelmed once he became the starter. Not sure why, but he had lost that confidence and cockiness he had when subbing for Levi. He might have them back now, but he did not in the bowl game. Hopefully, BW just wins baby. Doesn't have to be pretty, but just win. All Levi did was win. And yet people crucified him on this board because of who knows? If Ben can just win, that is all that matters. And the rest of this will be a mute point, or as Joey says a moo point.
    Mute??

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragin50 View Post
    Mute??
    I think he means mooo point. You know, not important, like a cow's opinion.

  9. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSaint08 View Post
    So, I was wrong about CF. I knew after BW was injured and CF started the bowl game, the chances of winning were slim to none. CF is not a college QB.
    10 yard penalty! You have violated one of the most sacred rules on Ragin Pagin. You have admitted you were wrong about anything.

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSaint08 View Post
    Well said. CF also had his chance as a starter. As I remember, he was eventually benched for BW. Before the start of that season, I was in CF's corner. I thought he was the best QB on the field. Every time he came in to relieve Levi, he came in slinging the ball and moving the offense. Again, even though his playing time was on a very limited basis, he appeared to be ready to go and had a full grasp of the offense. Fast forward to the following year after Levi had graduated, CF was named the starting QB. I was on his band wagon. However, in all the games he played, he looked like a deer in headlights, who didn't have a clue of how to run the offense nor a command of the offensive playbook. So, I was wrong about CF. I knew after BW was injured and CF started the bowl game, the chances of winning were slim to none. CF is not a college QB. And I hope we don't have to go through that again.
    To me it's not about Woolridge VS Fields, it's simply addressing why Wooldridge looked off at times Saturday night. I'm also on record now in saying the obvious, I don't believe Woolridge will get much better in his 5th season, but he can certainly execute better in this offense. We've already seen him play better last season before going down with an injury.

    If Ben struggles badly going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if Fields is first off the bench in a game because of his experience. But, if there is a change this season because of injury or performance, then in my opinion we will see Chriss as the starter.

    There is no QB controversy on this team.

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