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  1. #13

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    Please, everyone, calm down.

    We do need to watch expansions, because when dominoes fall, we're in the line-up.

    On the other hand, remember that University presidents frequently aren't all that bright. And this is a case in point. They believe they can suck up all the money, all the TV, all the talent, all the attention.

    And the proof of their folly is expansion itself. Sure, some of it is shuffling names. But some of it is accommodating the new schools who have elbowed their way to the table.

    So here's the damning question to the clueless presidents: when will schools stop elbowing their way up to the table?

    It won't happen. Realignment will never stop, because the presidents, and their bone-headed boosters, aren't smart enough to stop playing a dumb game.

    I would put Memphis ahead of us for next promotion. And a lot of our future will depend on Des, we'll have a better idea of that in the next few weeks. But if Mike is the kind of coach I think he is, after Memphis we're in the top 3 to move up after. We are a multi-threat school, several nationally-competitive sports (and recent activities suggest more sports are moving up fast), facilities, academics, research centers, and others.

    Our market and our attendance are holding us down for the moment.

    But our day will come.

    Patience, Grasshopper.

    [Trivia: the old man who played the master in the TV series Kung Fu got his start in a popular 1930's movie serial. Who was the actor, and what character did he play in the 1930's?]


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Please, everyone, calm down.

    We do need to watch expansions, because when dominoes fall, we're in the line-up.

    On the other hand, remember that University presidents frequently aren't all that bright. And this is a case in point. They believe they can suck up all the money, all the TV, all the talent, all the attention.

    And the proof of their folly is expansion itself. Sure, some of it is shuffling names. But some of it is accommodating the new schools who have elbowed their way to the table.

    So here's the damning question to the clueless presidents: when will schools stop elbowing their way up to the table?

    It won't happen. Realignment will never stop, because the presidents, and their bone-headed boosters, aren't smart enough to stop playing a dumb game.

    I would put Memphis ahead of us for next promotion. And a lot of our future will depend on Des, we'll have a better idea of that in the next few weeks. But if Mike is the kind of coach I think he is, after Memphis we're in the top 3 to move up after. We are a multi-threat school, several nationally-competitive sports (and recent activities suggest more sports are moving up fast), facilities, academics, research centers, and others.

    Our market and our attendance are holding us down for the moment.

    But our day will come.

    Patience, Grasshopper.

    [Trivia: the old man who played the master in the TV series Kung Fu got his start in a popular 1930's movie serial. Who was the actor, and what character did he play in the 1930's?]
    Keye Luke - Charlie Chan

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Please, everyone, calm down.

    We do need to watch expansions, because when dominoes fall, we're in the line-up.

    On the other hand, remember that University presidents frequently aren't all that bright. And this is a case in point. They believe they can suck up all the money, all the TV, all the talent, all the attention.

    And the proof of their folly is expansion itself. Sure, some of it is shuffling names. But some of it is accommodating the new schools who have elbowed their way to the table.

    So here's the damning question to the clueless presidents: when will schools stop elbowing their way up to the table?

    It won't happen. Realignment will never stop, because the presidents, and their bone-headed boosters, aren't smart enough to stop playing a dumb game.

    I would put Memphis ahead of us for next promotion. And a lot of our future will depend on Des, we'll have a better idea of that in the next few weeks. But if Mike is the kind of coach I think he is, after Memphis we're in the top 3 to move up after. We are a multi-threat school, several nationally-competitive sports (and recent activities suggest more sports are moving up fast), facilities, academics, research centers, and others.

    Our market and our attendance are holding us down for the moment.

    But our day will come.

    Patience, Grasshopper.

    [Trivia: the old man who played the master in the TV series Kung Fu got his start in a popular 1930's movie serial. Who was the actor, and what character did he play in the 1930's?]
    Who would you say are the top 3 after Memphis, UL and what 2 other schools? Who is best to fill an SMU slot in the AAC west?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    Who would you say are the top 3 after Memphis, UL and what 2 other schools? Who is best to fill an SMU slot in the AAC west?
    Here’s the honest truth. Some of y’all do not want to hear it, but it is still the truth.

    For almost 45 years this university has stifled athletics. We barely even grew academically, until the last 3-5 years. We are not on any radar to be accepted into any P5 league.

    Tulane is so far ahead of us in every metric it’s not even funny. Hell they even shed the Jewish Private stigma.

    Had athletics and academics pushed forward in the 80’s and 90’s to be some the strongest each could possibly be, we would be in a better position.

    Our enrollment is down from traditional levels. Our Endowment hasn’t grown fast enough. Our own administration would rather keep everything a secret, even our achievements, out of fear from the political dealings in the state.

    Our endowment is $500M away from being considered a peer to the P5 universities. Our athletic budget would need to double, even before P5 payouts. Our fan support sucks, football stadium sucks and we haven’t proven we can sustain success.

    That’s not even getting into the major economic shift in Acadiana away from O&G.

    If we are being objective, what do we offer and when has this university shown to have the gonads to make such a move? Not since 1984. 40 dang years ago.

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    . . . thanks . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Here’s the honest truth. Some of y’all do not want to hear it, but it is still the truth.

    For almost 45 years this university has stifled athletics. We barely even grew academically, until the last 3-5 years. We are not on any radar to be accepted into any P5 league.

    Tulane is so far ahead of us in every metric it’s not even funny. Hell they even shed the Jewish Private stigma.

    Had athletics and academics pushed forward in the 80’s and 90’s to be some the strongest each could possibly be, we would be in a better position.

    Our enrollment is down from traditional levels. Our Endowment hasn’t grown fast enough. Our own administration would rather keep everything a secret, even our achievements, out of fear from the political dealings in the state.

    Our endowment is $500M away from being considered a peer to the P5 universities. Our athletic budget would need to double, even before P5 payouts. Our fan support sucks, football stadium sucks and we haven’t proven we can sustain success.

    That’s not even getting into the major economic shift in Acadiana away from O&G.

    If we are being objective, what do we offer and when has this university shown to have the gonads to make such a move? Not since 1984. 40 dang years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Fresno won the national championship from the MWC not too long ago. They'll be fine.

    I don't think it is so much that football is driving the bus as much as Brand Power and TV Power. UCLA hasn't done diddly squat in football for a long time, but their brand is awesome and their market is one of the best.
    Fresno was in the WAC at the time. But that goes under blind squirrels and acorns.

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    Did tulane grow overall and rise up, or do the spike up in one thing, every so often?


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    Have they shed the "students from NE who can't get in anywhere else" or the "pay your fees get your Bs"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Fresno was in the WAC at the time. But that goes under blind squirrels and acorns.
    You are correct about the WAC, but it is not like they came out of nowhere. Yes, they did have an average regular season, but they were ranked in some polls preseason that year. You know more than most how funny baseball can be. Heck, we got swept by UNO right before we went to Omaha.

    Point is, the MWC is a nice conference. The PAC remnants might have to tighten their wallets a little, and their pride will take a hit, but the quality of play in all sports at Oregon State and Washington State will probably be the same as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    Keye Luke - Charlie Chan
    "Veddy good, numbah one son...

    ...but as usuah, wrong."

    Partly. It was Keye Luke, but he played Charlie Chan's son, Lee Chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    You are correct about the WAC, but it is not like they came out of nowhere. Yes, they did have an average regular season, but they were ranked in some polls preseason that year. You know more than most how funny baseball can be. Heck, we got swept by UNO right before we went to Omaha.

    Point is, the MWC is a nice conference. The PAC remnants might have to tighten their wallets a little, and their pride will take a hit, but the quality of play in all sports at Oregon State and Washington State will probably be the same as before.

    The Mountain West is far from a great baseball league. The point made was Oregon State's baseball could take a hit.

    And I can't disagree. There are always exceptions to the rule. But OSU baseball will definitely take a hit.

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