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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Boomer, god love ya, that’s just not true my man. Those are things people say to keep themselves in control. Look around the country and tell me what comparable setup actually grows? Continues a stable projection of growth?

    Separation is the only way we’ll ever survive in this collegiate athletic climate. We’ve been saying this for 15 years. And 15 years later, we have less than 2k RCAF members, no student members and a barely alive Alumni Association.
    ...Ok….point out the differences that could occur if the distribution and collection was done on a separated basis…..but be sure to add an amount of funds necessary to be raised to run the operation that the university currently does for rcaf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ……..Ok….point out the differences that could occur if the distribution and collection was done on a separated basis…..but be sure to add an amount of funds necessary to be raised to run the operation that the university currently does for rcaf!
    This won't answer your question but it is a case study in real savings and even bigger loss of revenue.

    Abbeville Broadcasting sold to what is now Town Square media, (I was working there) remember it well.

    At the time Abbeville Broadcasting had enough Vermilion Parish advertising dollars to support 7 full time not on air personel. 3 office, 1 maintenance, including 3 fulltime ad salesmen and part time. Plus the on air personalities of two radio stations.

    When it was sold, it was said consolidation would remove duplication, and save money for the purchaser.

    It wasn't long before Vermilion Parish advertising dried up due to the sales force having no direction and being spread in different directions. They could sell for any station now, and Vermilion Parish was hard work.

    The money saved with consolidation, led to money lost to where the stations could never be selfsustaing again

    When you have the same personel fundraising for two organizations, the money flowing under the bridge is greater than the savings of wearing two hats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    It boggles my mind that students are not recruited to the RCAF.
    Agree. Would be great way to replace those folks we’re going to lose from Mobile only ticketing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ……..Ok….point out the differences that could occur if the distribution and collection was done on a separated basis…..but be sure to add an amount of funds necessary to be raised to run the operation that the university currently does for rcaf!
    Boomer, I know you’ve seen the things we waste money on. The softball sign that keeps falling down, for example. Instead of spending the money necessary for proper installation, they keep renting a man lift every time it needs fixing. The cost savings from a full replacement would have been realized 2-3 years ago, but it’s easier to slap a short term bandaid on it.

    If you can’t afford a sales force, support staff, marketing budget, maintain cash flow, etc., you do not have a business. You have a wish. 15 years after its inception, RCAF is still limping along. The same people run to their corners and bark the same drivel. RCAF needs to be separated, period. I’m about tired of donating to one fund only to see the money go to another, and find out last minute via a proxy. Communication is a joke (unless you’re in the top 1%, engagement is worse, benefits are non-existent (comparatively speaking), outreach is abysmal and the results reflect that. Less than 2k members (probably 1/3 of that number are active) and zero student cultivation. But when you try to bring this up, they have all the answers.. I feel bad for the guys I know and respect on the new board because their hands are largely tied as long as the Foundation controls the purse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Boomer, I know you’ve seen the things we waste money on. The softball sign that keeps falling down, for example. Instead of spending the money necessary for proper installation, they keep renting a man lift every time it needs fixing. The cost savings from a full replacement would have been realized 2-3 years ago, but it’s easier to slap a short term bandaid on it.

    If you can’t afford a sales force, support staff, marketing budget, maintain cash flow, etc., you do not have a business. You have a wish. 15 years after its inception, RCAF is still limping along. The same people run to their corners and bark the same drivel. RCAF needs to be separated, period. I’m about tired of donating to one fund only to see the money go to another, and find out last minute via a proxy. Communication is a joke (unless you’re in the top 1%, engagement is worse, benefits are non-existent (comparatively speaking), outreach is abysmal and the results reflect that. Less than 2k members probably 1/3 of that number are active and zero student cultivation. But when you try to bring this up, they have all the answers.. I feel bad for the guys I know and respect on the new board because their hands are lately tied as long as the Foundation controls the purse.
    Softball sign? Which one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Boomer, I know you’ve seen the things we waste money on. The softball sign that keeps falling down, for example. Instead of spending the money necessary for proper installation, they keep renting a man lift every time it needs fixing. The cost savings from a full replacement would have been realized 2-3 years ago, but it’s easier to slap a short term bandaid on it.

    If you can’t afford a sales force, support staff, marketing budget, maintain cash flow, etc., you do not have a business. You have a wish. 15 years after its inception, RCAF is still limping along. The same people run to their corners and bark the same drivel. RCAF needs to be separated, period. I’m about tired of donating to one fund only to see the money go to another, and find out last minute via a proxy. Communication is a joke (unless you’re in the top 1%, engagement is worse, benefits are non-existent (comparatively speaking), outreach is abysmal and the results reflect that. Less than 2k members (probably 1/3 of that number are active) and zero student cultivation. But when you try to bring this up, they have all the answers.. I feel bad for the guys I know and respect on the new board because their hands are largely tied as long as the Foundation controls the purse.
    I think your spot on! Great post!! The tentacles that "allegedly" made "Bad Hires" are still deeply imbedded in this large bureaucracy. If you're part of the "club", you will defend this cabal and spout disinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfan96 View Post
    I think your spot on! Great post!! The tentacles that "allegedly" made "Bad Hires" are still deeply imbedded in this large bureaucracy. If you're part of the "club", you will defend this cabal and spout disinformation.
    And that is a microcosm of why I don’t get excited with in-house, legacy, or bubba hires. I make like the person 100% and they have impeccable integrity; but more often than not, it doesn’t mean success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    This won't answer your question but it is a case study in real savings and even bigger loss of revenue.

    Abbeville Broadcasting sold to what is now Town Square media, (I was working there) remember it well.

    At the time Abbeville Broadcasting had enough Vermilion Parish advertising dollars to support 7 full time not on air personel. 3 office, 1 maintenance, including 3 fulltime ad salesmen and part time. Plus the on air personalities of two radio stations.

    When it was sold, it was said consolidation would remove duplication, and save money for the purchaser.

    It wasn't long before Vermilion Parish advertising dried up due to the sales force having no direction and being spread in different directions. They could sell for any station now, and Vermilion Parish was hard work.

    The money saved with consolidation, led to money lost to where the stations could never be selfsustaing again

    When you have the same personel fundraising for two organizations, the money flowing under the bridge is greater than the savings of wearing two hats.
    When changes like that are made, employers will always paint a picture as to why it's going to be better.

    Basically speaking, those stations were purchased because CommCorp got caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Years ago, Erath was awarded an FM signal at 107.7. It was a low power FM, kind of like all the Delta Media Stations. They used it to simulcast 1420 on the FM dial (it was a news station then.)

    Then, CommCorp (later Regent, now Townsquare) decided they wanted a more high power FM signal and (through lots of negotiations and payments to other stations) got permission to move 107.7 to 107.9 and become 100,000 watts. They didn't think KPEL News needed to be 100,000 watts and decided to make 107.9 a classic rock station.

    All that was fine....until.....

    Listeners were really upset because KPEL was no longer on the FM dial. I mean, REALLY upset. Sooooooooo, they bought 105.1 and 960, the two stations licensed to Abbeville. KPEL was back on the FM dial and they changed 1420 to an all sports format.

    And, all this happened between 1995 and 1998. 107.9 of course, changed to hip hop about 20 years ago. KPEL was on 105.1, but changed frequencies with Planet Radio 96.5 to get a 50,000 watt signal. 105.1 became Planet and eventually became classic rock.

    It proved to be a very profitable move for that company. 960 became a throwaway signal, especially since it was a "daytime only" radio station (they now are on air at night, but the signal is very weak.).

    All of those moves benefitted the broadcast of UL sports tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When changes like that are made, employers will always paint a picture as to why it's going to be better.

    Basically speaking, those stations were purchased because CommCorp got caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Years ago, Erath was awarded an FM signal at 107.7. It was a low power FM, kind of like all the Delta Media Stations. They used it to simulcast 1420 on the FM dial (it was a news station then.)

    Then, CommCorp (later Regent, now Townsquare) decided they wanted a more high power FM signal and (through lots of negotiations and payments to other stations) got permission to move 107.7 to 107.9 and become 100,000 watts. They didn't think KPEL News needed to be 100,000 watts and decided to make 107.9 a classic rock station.

    All that was fine....until.....

    Listeners were really upset because KPEL was no longer on the FM dial. I mean, REALLY upset. Sooooooooo, they bought 105.1 and 960, the two stations licensed to Abbeville. KPEL was back on the FM dial and they changed 1420 to an all sports format.

    And, all this happened between 1995 and 1998. 107.9 of course, changed to hip hop about 20 years ago. KPEL was on 105.1, but changed frequencies with Planet Radio 96.5 to get a 50,000 watt signal. 105.1 became Planet and eventually became classic rock.

    It proved to be a very profitable move for that company. 960 became a throwaway signal, especially since it was a "daytime only" radio station (they now are on air at night, but the signal is very weak.).

    All of those moves benefitted the broadcast of UL sports tremendously.
    . . . anyone who can remember all of these specifics and just spit it out still had IT . . . pretty amazing Jay . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When changes like that are made, employers will always paint a picture as to why it's going to be better.

    Basically speaking, those stations were purchased because CommCorp got caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Years ago, Erath was awarded an FM signal at 107.7. It was a low power FM, kind of like all the Delta Media Stations. They used it to simulcast 1420 on the FM dial (it was a news station then.)

    Then, CommCorp (later Regent, now Townsquare) decided they wanted a more high power FM signal and (through lots of negotiations and payments to other stations) got permission to move 107.7 to 107.9 and become 100,000 watts. They didn't think KPEL News needed to be 100,000 watts and decided to make 107.9 a classic rock station.

    All that was fine....until.....

    Listeners were really upset because KPEL was no longer on the FM dial. I mean, REALLY upset. Sooooooooo, they bought 105.1 and 960, the two stations licensed to Abbeville. KPEL was back on the FM dial and they changed 1420 to an all sports format.

    And, all this happened between 1995 and 1998. 107.9 of course, changed to hip hop about 20 years ago. KPEL was on 105.1, but changed frequencies with Planet Radio 96.5 to get a 50,000 watt signal. 105.1 became Planet and eventually became classic rock.

    It proved to be a very profitable move for that company. 960 became a throwaway signal, especially since it was a "daytime only" radio station (they now are on air at night, but the signal is very weak.).

    All of those moves benefitted the broadcast of UL sports tremendously.
    Good stuff.

    For most of the 80s and 90s 960 was on at night but had to lower to 100 watts.

    1000 watts Day
    100 watts night.

    Basically Abbeville only listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    When changes like that are made, employers will always paint a picture as to why it's going to be better.

    Basically speaking, those stations were purchased because CommCorp got caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Years ago, Erath was awarded an FM signal at 107.7. It was a low power FM, kind of like all the Delta Media Stations. They used it to simulcast 1420 on the FM dial (it was a news station then.)

    Then, CommCorp (later Regent, now Townsquare) decided they wanted a more high power FM signal and (through lots of negotiations and payments to other stations) got permission to move 107.7 to 107.9 and become 100,000 watts. They didn't think KPEL News needed to be 100,000 watts and decided to make 107.9 a classic rock station.

    All that was fine....until.....

    Listeners were really upset because KPEL was no longer on the FM dial. I mean, REALLY upset. Sooooooooo, they bought 105.1 and 960, the two stations licensed to Abbeville. KPEL was back on the FM dial and they changed 1420 to an all sports format.

    And, all this happened between 1995 and 1998. 107.9 of course, changed to hip hop about 20 years ago. KPEL was on 105.1, but changed frequencies with Planet Radio 96.5 to get a 50,000 watt signal. 105.1 became Planet and eventually became classic rock.

    It proved to be a very profitable move for that company. 960 became a throwaway signal, especially since it was a "daytime only" radio station (they now are on air at night, but the signal is very weak.).

    All of those moves benefitted the broadcast of UL sports tremendously.
    Pretty cool history

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    JW, a classmate of mine from Erath held the original license for 107.7.


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