Tier 1

[R1Letterman]

Is R1 status permanent or do we have to maintain and get reinspected and need to re-cert every so many years

[CajunVic]

YES

[CAJUNJUDO]

I love yes or no answers to questions with “or”….lol!

[fanof71]

Should have dropped a maybe on him and watch his head explode...

[CajunVic]

MAYBE

[RaginCajun77]

Is R1 status permanent or do we have to maintain and get reinspected and need to re-cert every so many years

To achieve the “R1” classification, a university must meet the following requirements: award at least 20 research/scholarship doctoral degrees in the update year; spend at least $5 million in total research (as reported through the National Science Foundation (NSF) Higher Education Research & Development Survey (HERD)); and, score high in a Research Activity Index calculation.

The Carnegie Classification list is updated every three years and provides a framework for administrators, policymakers, and researchers and impacts decisions on grant-making and federal and state funding for institutions. Overall, about 3,900 institutions were recognized in the 2021 classifications, down from 4,300 in 2018 and 4,600 in 2015.

[CajunFun]

Is R1 status permanent or do we have to maintain and get reinspected and need to re-cert every so many years

We have to be re-evaluated, not sure of the cycle length.

BTW, Tier 1, R1, and SREB Doc I are all different. Doc I is based on 100 PhDs/year, in 10 categories. I asked an administrator about that recently, because state funding is based on SREB. He said it's not a big priority right now, because the Leg hasn't fully funded it since Kathleen.

[R1Letterman]

Should have dropped a maybe on him and watch his head explode...

"It depends" is a much better answer than Maybe.

[Boomer]

To achieve the “R1” classification, a university must meet the following requirements: award at least 20 research/scholarship doctoral degrees in the update year; spend at least $5 million in total research (as reported through the National Science Foundation (NSF) Higher Education Research & Development Survey (HERD)); and, score high in a Research Activity Index calculation.

The Carnegie Classification list is updated every three years and provides a framework for administrators, policymakers, and researchers and impacts decisions on grant-making and federal and state funding for institutions. Overall, about 3,900 institutions were recognized in the 2021 classifications, down from 4,300 in 2018 and 4,600 in 2015.

…..We must be proactive in keeping our rankings by trying to add the different qualifying numbers each year……also Doc Fun might know some other ranking agencies for UL to be represented in yearly….US News?

[R1Letterman]

Wow. Thanks!!!!

[CajunFun]

…..We must be proactive in keeping our rankings by trying to add the different qualifying numbers each year……also Doc Fun might know some other ranking agencies for UL to be represented in yearly….US News?

USN&WR is somewhat of a joke... some schools have stopped sending them info. Remember, La Tech gamed the system by just getting a lot of alums to give $1 each. And they keep watering down the rankings. I think they're trying to keep the big schools happy.

There's a lot of evidence that the big schools put forth effort to hide any real comparisons that might show them to be underproductive.

One example: a couple of decades back, a UL administrator told me that for every available comparison of performance on exit exams -- GRE, LSAT, MCAT, nursing, architecture, etc. -- UL led the state, surpassing even LSU & Tulane.

I'm guessing the same situation was happening in a number of other states, because within a very few years those comparisons were no longer available. In fact, the testing companies began asking universities not to publish their performance and pass rates.

The same is true with the NSF research numbers. About 3 years ago, the NSF stopped publishing the number of researchers on a campus. When that data is included, the 'inferior' schools like UL can be shown to surpass the supposedly 'superior' schools.

[R1Letterman]

Great points! Thanks again.
Also on tests, USL had a long run of 100% pass rate for CPA exam in the 1990s