Baseball week 11 rpi - May 14

[RaginDave]

Yes, we all need to be pulling for Texas State tonight. Here are the games tonight we need to be watching for some help.

Campbell over ECU
Coastal over UNC
JMU over Va Tech
Marshall over Morehead State
South Al over SLU
Rice over PVA&M
Texas State over TCU
McNeese over LSU (due to the fact that we played McNeese twice).

Also, on Wednesday night, there is only 1 college baseball game being played, just one in the entire D1. That game is between McNeese and Miami (OH). Not that it will help a ton, but we would want McNeese to win that one as well.

[lcitsh]

Yes, we all need to be pulling for Texas State tonight. Here are the games tonight we need to be watching for some help.

Campbell over ECU
Coastal over UNC
JMU over Va Tech
Marshall over Morehead State
South Al over SLU
Rice over PVA&M
Texas State over TCU
McNeese over LSU (due to the fact that we played McNeese twice).

It doesn't matter how many times we played McNeese. LSU is #5 rpi, I do not want them falling out of the top 8, and a home loss to the #115 team will speed that along.

[RaginDave]

It doesn't matter how many times we played McNeese. LSU is #5 rpi, I do not want them falling out of the top 8, and a home loss to the #115 team will speed that along.

A McNeese win would be a plus 1.4 for us, while a McNeese loss would be a minus 2.4 for us.

[GoneGolfin]

A McNeese win would be a plus 1.4 for us, while a McNeese loss would be a minus 2.4 for us.

Actually, no. The multiplier is 1.3 and 0.7 ... and only applies to the WP portion of the RPI formula ... not OWP and not OOWP.

For McNeese themselves, they will receive either 1.3 wins for a road win ... or 0.7 losses for a road loss.

Brian

[RaginDave]

Actually, no. The multiplier is 1.3 and 0.7 ... and only applies to the WP portion of the RPI formula ... not OWP and not OOWP.

For McNeese themselves, they will receive either 1.3 wins for a road win ... or 0.7 losses for a road loss.

Brian

I was just going off of what warren nolan has it listed as.

[lcitsh]

A McNeese win would be a plus 1.4 for us, while a McNeese loss would be a minus 2.4 for us.

If the Cajuns somehow get into range to be discussed for an at large bid, the committee will focus more on the win over LSU, a top 10 win, than anything we did against McNeese. If the Cajuns don't win at least two this weekend, getting into at large discussion range will not be an issue, no matter what McNeese does.

[lcitsh]

I was just going off of what warren nolan has it listed as.

That's the other problem. Too many people want to trust those who have the time and money to set up their own website instead of using the information the NCAA provides them and the knowledge of the game they have from years of experience around it. You know as much if not more about the game than Warren Nolan, the people behind D1 Baseball or any other site that espouses expertise. For the mathematics of it (rpi), you have Brian and the NCAA rpi site and, if I can be of service, I'll try to be helpful. Brian is more of the mathematician than am I. You don't need the other sites.

[GoneGolfin]

I was just going off of what warren nolan has it listed as.

Not sure what you are looking at, but you may be misinterpreting what is shown. I know that Warren does not use the home/road adjustment factor for the OWP and OOWP portions of the formula ... as this is not part of the RPI formula.

Brian

[RaginDave]

Not sure what you are looking at, but you may be misinterpreting what is shown. I know that Warren does not use the home/road adjustment factor for the OWP and OOWP portions of the formula ... as this is not part of the RPI formula.

Brian

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball...team=Louisiana

[GoneGolfin]

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball...team=Louisiana

It seems that what he has done is normalized the scale (RPI points) to something that is more understandable to the masses and easier to quickly read. As opposed to examining the actually RPI differentials between teams and publishing the actual RPI effect of the "impact games". It does give you a reasonable gauge of proximity, which is the intent.

No doubt that McNeese winning provides a very marginal benefit to the Cajuns strictly from an RPI perspective (vs. LSU winning). But I also agree that LSU remaining in the RPI Top 10 is more beneficial for the Cajuns.

Brian

[MountainDew]

It seems that what he has done is normalized the scale (RPI points) to something that is more understandable to the masses and easier to quickly read. As opposed to examining the actually RPI differentials between teams and publishing the actual RPI effect of the "impact games". It does give you a reasonable gauge of proximity, which is the intent.

No doubt that McNeese winning provides a very marginal benefit to the Cajuns strictly from an RPI perspective (vs. LSU winning). But I also agree that LSU remaining in the RPI Top 10 is more beneficial for the Cajuns.

Brian

I would think a McNeese win would be more beneficial in the long run right? It may make LSU fall a bit, but I imagine LSU will make that up in their final series and going into the SEC tourney.

Edit: I don't know nearly enough about RPI pts to actually make a good point.

[JayWalker]

IF we win the series this weekend (I think even thinking of a sweep is a stretch) and then get to Sunday, it will mean we pick up four more Q1 wins (two this weekend and two in the tournament. I don't see anyone else beating USM or CCU in tournament games). That gets us in the discussion, for sure.

But one game at a time starting this Thursday.