SB 2023: Regional Hosting or Not? NOT!

[CajunVic]

That guy with all the facts never seems to have the right fact.

[DieHard 1280]

You are making extreme statements that I did not make.

You can certainly optimize your schedule to where you can achieve an RPI ranking considerably higher than your strength/worth. Just like you can have an RPI ranking that discounts your strength. This is what I am saying. And because of this ... the shortcomings of the RPI system itself ... you cannot rely on it alone.

And BTW, you can manufacture an RPI ranking that is much higher than the RPI rankings of the teams that are on your schedule. I can fabricate a schedule without a single team in the RPI Top 50 that would result in a Top 16 RPI ranking ... while still only losing 8% -> 10% of your games. This does nothing to prove that you are a Top 16 team. This is a significant problem in the system.

Brian

I understand completely what you’re saying,Brian. It’s crystal clear that the top 25 RPI record did them in. I also understand the players disgust as well. What I’m wondering is how the coaches didn’t realize that record would be such a detriment. Were they simply thinking that the RPI alone would carry a much greater weight? Surely the coaches are aware that we’ve never gotten the benefit of the doubt.

[Turbine]

You are making extreme statements that I did not make.

I usually try to put a persons key words in quotes.

I'm sorry if I implied that you said that, I was attempting to address double bonus.

The Committee said as much in crediting certain host seeds with an "optimized" top-11 win over Louisiana, only to subsequently after dispensing the double bonus, state: 'No Louisiana, you are most certainly not top-11 team.

[Turbine]

Turbine, RPI does not take every fact into consideration. RPI is a very poor measuring stick, but we are still stuck with it. I have explained ad nauseum over the years how you can game the RPI system to manufacture a very high RPI rank. You can manufacture a high ranking (optimizing your schedule) even without beating a single Top 25 team. In this situation, you are overrated relative to your RPI ranking. This is why you simply cannot make seeding decisions on RPI alone.

Brian

I understand the need to tweak the importance of a stat as well as the idea that a metric can be over or under inflated and needs to be adjusted.

What 'fact' that has no current presence in the RPI would you suggest needs to be added?

[Bandwagon King]

You are making extreme statements that I did not make.

You can certainly optimize your schedule to where you can achieve an RPI ranking considerably higher than your strength/worth. Just like you can have an RPI ranking that discounts your strength. This is what I am saying. And because of this ... the shortcomings of the RPI system itself ... you cannot rely on it alone.

And BTW, you can manufacture an RPI ranking that is much higher than the RPI rankings of the teams that are on your schedule. I can fabricate a schedule without a single team in the RPI Top 50 that would result in a Top 16 RPI ranking ... while still only losing 8% -> 10% of your games. This does nothing to prove that you are a Top 16 team. This is a significant problem in the system.

Brian

Dude, you're a genius. I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for al the valuable information you put out Brian.

[Bandwagon King]

So, I've done a little bit of research & I like where UL sits in the bracket. From what I see UL should be hosting this regional though. LSU should be coming here. But at least they give us a chance to get to OKC. And once these Cajuns get there, they have a shot. I'll also be pulling for Central Arkansas. They have have a decent shot to get there as well. Go Cajuns!!!

[Turbine]

Turbine, RPI does not take every fact into consideration. RPI is a very poor measuring stick, but we are still stuck with it....

Granted, but as the measuring stick used, every fact used to determine the top 10 and top 25 is in the RPI.

Then to ignore RPI calculation #11 and say it is wrong... is wrong.

I wonder how many on the committee knew or know that Louisiana had a shot at RPI #6 going in to the conference tournaments?

[JMV JustMyView]

So, I've done a little bit of research & I like where UL sits in the bracket. From what I see UL should be hosting this regional though. LSU should be coming here. But at least they give us a chance to get to OKC. And once these Cajuns get there, they have a shot. I'll also be pulling for Central Arkansas. They have have a decent shot to get there as well. Go Cajuns!!!

I hate LSU, but you know nothing about college softball. In no way should LSU be coming to Lafayette.

[moorecajun]

Is there video of that anywhere? Been looking for it, but can’t find it.

It was still on espn yesterday; I watched it. We were the only team to not be up and excited about our announcement.

Let's go make our own announcement this weekend!

GEAUX CAJUNS!

[RaginDave]

I hate LSU, but you know nothing about college softball. In no way should LSU be coming to Lafayette.

If anyone believes that LSU should not be hosting and should be coming to Lafayette they are out of their minds. I am no LSU fan, as is clearly known by anyone who knows me, but LSU has the #8 RPI in the country, they went 27-3 in non conference play with the #8 Non Conference SOS, they were 9-10 vs Top 25 RPI teams, 21-15 vs Top 50's. They played in the #1 conference in all of softball and finished 13-11. They deserve to be hosting, no question, this is not and should not be about LSU. The reality is UL should be hosting as well. UL's problem came down to a handful of games and if they could have had a couple of different results in a couple of critical games, we would not be having this discussion.

7-6 loss to Michigan
7-6 loss to Arkansas
4-3 loss to UCLA
5-3 loss to App State
2-1 loss to Baylor
4-2 loss to A&M
8-7 loss to Troy

9 runs between 7 games. The A&M, Baylor, Michigan, Arkansas and UCLA games were the most costly, because that is the difference between going 2-9 vs Top 25 and 7-4. Had we won those 5 games we would have been overall 22-4 vs top 50 teams.

The person who originally posted this I have blocked, so I didn't read the original post, but seriously thinking LSU should not be hosting is absolute nonsense.

[GoneGolfin]

Granted, but as the measuring stick used, every fact used to determine the top 10 and top 25 is in the RPI.

Then to ignore RPI calculation #11 and say it is wrong... is wrong.

I wonder how many on the committee knew or know that Louisiana had a shot at RPI #6 going in to the conference tournaments?

The committee was not ignoring the Cajuns' RPI rank. They were in the discussion for a national seed. There were simply schools with better resumes for those final spots. Those schools also demonstrated acceptable performance vs. the RPI Top 25 and RPI Top 10. The Cajuns did not. They were not far away ... it might have been as small as holding the lead against UCLA in the 7th. Or instead, maybe a couple more RPI Top 25 wins. In no way was this surprising based on the specific and understandable criteria the committee has used in the past.

It is Baylor that should feel slighted, not Louisiana. Baylor did what the committee outlined ... even more than what Alabama was rewarded for ... but was passed over for a national seed.

Brian

[CajunVic]

There got to be a fact in there somewhere . . .