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Thread: SB 2023: Regional Hosting or Not? NOT!

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    UL Softball Re: Hosting or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by HOUCajun View Post
    I watched several of those early season games against top competition. We seemed to have certainly started to play better. BUT… against lesser competition.

    Going 2-9 against top tier competition would give me pause if I were on the committee. I am not saying there isn’t an argument to be made for a host. But I could see how it was close.

    Winning this regional is certainly obtainable. I hope the team feels disrespected and plays accordingly.
    If you watched the selection show, when they announced us to the Baton Rouge regional, our girls didn't cheer, they didn't smile, they didn't hug each other. They looked angry to me. I don't think we have to worry about lack of focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    . . . Some just have trouble with the facts . . .
    Single fact fans unite.

    The Committee suffers the same deer in the headlights single focus syndrome every year.

    No matter how much the facts favor Louisiana and the fact that RPI takes EVERY fact into consideration. The committee annually suffers from SECradation (degradation) of any non SEC school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Single fact fans unite.

    The Committee suffers the same deer in the headlights single focus syndrome every year.

    No matter how much the facts favor Louisiana and the fact that RPI takes EVERY fact into consideration. The committee annually suffers from SECradation (degradation) of any non SEC school.
    Stick to the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Single fact fans unite.

    The Committee suffers the same deer in the headlights single focus syndrome every year.

    No matter how much the facts favor Louisiana and the fact that RPI takes EVERY fact into consideration. The committee annually suffers from SECradation (degradation) of any non SEC school.
    Turbine, RPI does not take every fact into consideration. RPI is a very poor measuring stick, but we are still stuck with it. I have explained ad nauseum over the years how you can game the RPI system to manufacture a very high RPI rank. You can manufacture a high ranking (optimizing your schedule) even without beating a single Top 25 team. In this situation, you are overrated relative to your RPI ranking. This is why you simply cannot make seeding decisions on RPI alone.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    If you watched the selection show, when they announced us to the Baton Rouge regional, our girls didn't cheer, they didn't smile, they didn't hug each other. They looked angry to me. I don't think we have to worry about lack of focus.
    Is there video of that anywhere? Been looking for it, but can’t find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirBill View Post
    Is there video of that anywhere? Been looking for it, but can’t find it.
    You can find the whole selection show on YouTube. It’s not as convenient but it does show the Cajuns reaction, you just have to skip through a little bit.

    EDIT: it shows them around the 19-minute mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirBill View Post
    Is there video of that anywhere? Been looking for it, but can’t find it.
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00042074305938

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    Turbine, RPI does not take every fact into consideration. RPI is a very poor measuring stick, but we are still stuck with it. I have explained ad nauseum over the years how you can game the RPI system to manufacture a very high RPI rank. You can manufacture a high ranking (optimizing your schedule) even without beating a single Top 25 team. In this situation, you are overrated relative to your RPI ranking. This is why you simply cannot make seeding decisions on RPI alone.

    Brian
    Optimization of one's schedule does not make the entire season invalid.

    You cannot manufacture a high RPI by playing a weak schedule, that would not be an optimized schedule.

    RPI takes the entire schedule into consideration, and if enough dominance exists in an optimized overall solid schedule and it propels you into a top-16 RPI, it should not be ignored.

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    Girl in the middle was ____ED! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoCajun View Post
    Girl in the middle was ____ED! LOL
    They should have walked off silently as soon as the announcement started.

    Was watching Alabama a few nights prior and the announcers were talking about the RPI was “faulty” this year. Should have known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Optimization of one's schedule does not make the entire season invalid.

    You cannot manufacture a high RPI by playing a weak schedule, that would not be an optimized schedule.

    RPI takes the entire schedule into consideration, and if enough dominance exists in an optimized overall solid schedule and it propels you into a top-16 RPI, it should not be ignored.
    You are making extreme statements that I did not make.

    You can certainly optimize your schedule to where you can achieve an RPI ranking considerably higher than your strength/worth. Just like you can have an RPI ranking that discounts your strength. This is what I am saying. And because of this ... the shortcomings of the RPI system itself ... you cannot rely on it alone.

    And BTW, you can manufacture an RPI ranking that is much higher than the RPI rankings of the teams that are on your schedule. I can fabricate a schedule without a single team in the RPI Top 50 that would result in a Top 16 RPI ranking ... while still only losing 8% -> 10% of your games. This does nothing to prove that you are a Top 16 team. This is a significant problem in the system.

    Brian

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    Espn 1420.com. Or “The Goat” has a Twitter clip


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    That guy with all the facts never seems to have the right fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    You are making extreme statements that I did not make.

    You can certainly optimize your schedule to where you can achieve an RPI ranking considerably higher than your strength/worth. Just like you can have an RPI ranking that discounts your strength. This is what I am saying. And because of this ... the shortcomings of the RPI system itself ... you cannot rely on it alone.

    And BTW, you can manufacture an RPI ranking that is much higher than the RPI rankings of the teams that are on your schedule. I can fabricate a schedule without a single team in the RPI Top 50 that would result in a Top 16 RPI ranking ... while still only losing 8% -> 10% of your games. This does nothing to prove that you are a Top 16 team. This is a significant problem in the system.

    Brian
    I understand completely what you’re saying,Brian. It’s crystal clear that the top 25 RPI record did them in. I also understand the players disgust as well. What I’m wondering is how the coaches didn’t realize that record would be such a detriment. Were they simply thinking that the RPI alone would carry a much greater weight? Surely the coaches are aware that we’ve never gotten the benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    You are making extreme statements that I did not make.
    I usually try to put a persons key words in quotes.

    I'm sorry if I implied that you said that, I was attempting to address double bonus.

    The Committee said as much in crediting certain host seeds with an "optimized" top-11 win over Louisiana, only to subsequently after dispensing the double bonus, state: 'No Louisiana, you are most certainly not top-11 team.

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