Softball week 9 rpi - April 30

[GoneGolfin]

As Terrell noted, bad losses are a factor in the evaluation of national seeds (top 8 and top 16). However, in the past these were losses considered to be outside of the Top 150 RPI. As such, we are presently good but want App State to finish well.

Brian

[SlickRick]

As Terrell noted, bad losses are a factor in the evaluation of national seeds (top 8 and top 16). However, in the past these were losses considered to be outside of the Top 150 RPI. As such, we want App State to finish well.

Brian

App State dropped both game yesterday.

[VObserver]

App State dropped both game yesterday.

Rick, App's RPI after those losses is still 140. We should be good.

On a related note ULM's RPI went up from 123 to 121 after losing to us yesterday.

[Turbine]

Rick, App's RPI after those losses is still 140. We should be good.

On a related note ULM's RPI went up from 123 to 121 after losing to us yesterday.

The rest of the Sunbelt has historically risen after conference play starts simply because of the round robin of them playing Louisiana.

[VObserver]

The rest of the Sunbelt has historically risen after conference play starts simply because of the round robin of them playing Louisiana.

Not just us. The top 4 or 5 in the conference lift every one else. We need the bottom half of the conference to improve, even if it is just to get everyone in the conference at 100 or better, preferably with SOS of 100 or better as well.

[ragin50]

The rest of the Sunbelt has historically risen after conference play starts simply because of the round robin of them playing Louisiana.

Except that we don't play everyone else anymore. And the tournament is now single elimination.

[Turbine]

Except that we don't play everyone else anymore. And the tournament is now single elimination.

Does opponent's opponent come into play with RPI?

[SlickRick]

Does opponent's opponent come into play with RPI?

Yes, I believe it does.

[VObserver]

Does opponent's opponent come into play with RPI?

RPI consists of your record [25%], your opponents' record [50%] and your opponents' opponents' record [25%]. There are bonuses rewarded for "good" wins and penalties for "bad" losses, which when applied to your RPI gives your "adjusted RPI", a decimal value to 5 or more places. These decimal values are the actual RPI, but what people generally call "RPI" is the ordinal rank of your team's RPI. Louisiana's RPI yesterday was .66523, which ranked 10th, so everyone says our RPI is 10. Today's numbers have not been released yet, but the rankings have. The Cajuns are still 10th.

[Turbine]

So, even when not every team plays Louisiana directly, there is still a round robin juice boost from the ones who do play Louisiana.

[VObserver]

So, even when not every team plays Louisiana directly, there is still a round robin juice boost from the ones who do play Louisiana.

Sure, but that doesn't help as much as you would think. If Marshall plays 50 games and each of their opponents plays 50, each game that Marshall played against Coastal, would create a Louisiana component in Marshall's RPI of our winning percentage, say .75000 divided by 2500, then multiplied by .25, or .000075 for each game Coastal played us. Helpful, but not earthshattering.

In Marshall's case, Coastal playing Marshall helped us more than it helped Marshall.

[Turbine]

Got it. Thanks.