Legislation thread

[fpc4life99]

Can someone point me to the thread about how the LSU lawmaker changed the law to force UL to ULL?

[Turbine]

Can someone point me to the thread about how the LSU lawmaker changed the law to force UL to ULL?

I will get it for you, but just a technicality, no one forced the school to "ULL" or "UL Lafayette"

What they did force was that if the school used it's full name written out "University of Louisiana" it was forced to note it's location "at Lafayette."

In the law (as a suggestion) if the campus was in Rayne (Rayne was the example) ULR was a "suggested" but not required or forced.

Give me a few I'm going to find the thread, if someone else finds it first, that's good. Not exactly what you are looking for but this is the history behind the struggle Battle

[JayWalker]

There was no legislation.

We hammered home "Call us USL" when we were Southwestern, and eventually it stuck. It was simply too easy for everyone to start using ULL when we had the name change.

And, now that our neighbors know how much we hate that, they'll do it at every opportunity.

[IHateLaState]

There was no legislation.

We hammered home "Call us USL" when we were Southwestern, and eventually it stuck. It was simply too easy for everyone to start using ULL when we had the name change.

And, now that our neighbors know how much we hate that, they'll do it at every opportunity.

Our "neighbors" are Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical or LSU A&M. They have successfully branded LSU over the years. We are doing the same

frug em

[ManAboutTown]

When Lyn Rollins calls us Louisiana on the SEC Network, in Baton Rouge, for 3 hours... We've won. It's over.

This is on the heels of basketball being Louisiana on a national bracket and taking Tennessee to the brink in front of 3.1 million viewers.

A couple years removed from Napier taking Louisiana to the Top 25 two consecutive years in national polls.

The more Baton Rouge bihtches about the name, the more attention it gets and the more it sticks. Keep in mind, nationally, other fanbases despise TSAB. They'll call us Louisiana just to spite them. Just keep doing what we're doing.

[JayWalker]

When Lyn Rollins calls us Louisiana on the SEC Network, in Baton Rouge, for 3 hours... We've won. It's over.

This is on the heels of basketball being Louisiana on a national bracket and taking Tennessee to the brink in front of 3.1 million viewers.

A couple years removed from Napier taking Louisiana to the Top 25 two consecutive years in national polls.

The more Baton Rouge bihtches about the name, the more attention it gets and the more it sticks. Keep in mind, nationally, other fanbases despise TSAB. They'll call us Louisiana just to spite them. Just keep doing what we're doing.

This!!!

[ULvictory]

It's funny seeing the narrative turn on The A&M college. Other fanbases openly laugh at their pettiness in all of this. I don't think there is a single fanbase in America other than the one in BR that openly complains or throws fits on how another school brands itself. It's comical and also sad.

[ragincajun97]

When Lyn Rollins calls us Louisiana on the SEC Network, in Baton Rouge, for 3 hours... We've won. It's over.

This is on the heels of basketball being Louisiana on a national bracket and taking Tennessee to the brink in front of 3.1 million viewers.

A couple years removed from Napier taking Louisiana to the Top 25 two consecutive years in national polls.

The more Baton Rouge bihtches about the name, the more attention it gets and the more it sticks. Keep in mind, nationally, other fanbases despise TSAB. They'll call us Louisiana just to spite them. Just keep doing what we're doing.

They went after their own beat writer for using louisiana

[lcitsh]

Can someone point me to the thread about how the LSU lawmaker changed the law to force UL to ULL?

https://www.angelfire.com/la3/ulragincajuns/battle.html

Ragin Cajuns Fan Forum

Louisiana

Louisiana, you ask?
The Battle for a Name

HISTORY

After years of achievement and leadership in higher education and five years of planning and lobbying, UL President Dr. Ray Authement was rewarded for his determination on April 27, 1984 as the Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities voted by a 17-1 margin to drop the “Southwestern” from USL’s name. On that date, the University of Southwestern Louisiana became THE University of Louisiana.

By that time, USL’s name had become a hindrance to further advancement and improvement among universities. UL had outgrown its double-directional name. UL’s enrollment was at 16,000 students, which made it one of the two largest schools in the three-state region of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas. It was a comprehensive university and had students from all 50 states and 100 countries enrolled. UL lead the state in professional and certification exams in many fields including engineering, nursing, and education. The University of Louisiana had received national recognition for their computer science program and was a charter member of NCAA Division I-A Football.

The name didn’t last long, however, as traditional Louisiana university politics, with its long history of paranoia and infighting, became a factor. Some administrators at other state schools worried that UL’s new name would diminish their image. According to Baton Rouge’s Morning Advocate, LSU Chancellor James H. Wharton said he is concerned that “the new name will result in the university’s expansion” (April 28, 1984). Ironically, the arguments against UL had a familiar ring since they were used in 1960 when Southwestern Louisiana Institute upgraded to university status and became the University of Southwestern Louisiana.

In May of 1984, the Board Regents, with the strong support of powerful LSU backers on and off the Board, took the issue to district court, asserting that only the Louisiana Legislature could rename state universities. They won as District Judge William H. Brown agreed with the plaintiffs and stripped the University of Louisiana of its new name. Although Judge Brown was an alumnus of LSU, and an active supporter of that school, he did not recuse himself from the case despite this apparent conflict of interest. He ruled against the name change despite clear constitutional language confirming both the name change and the way it was handled, despite an opinion from the State Attorney General, and despite the legal precedent of other state schools who had changed their names through the same course of action. For example, when LSUNO changed its name to UNO, it only received approval from the LSU Board of Supervisors. UL, however, was ordered to revert to USL on May 22, 1984 and Louisiana remained only one of two states to not have a University of State. Soon after and in specific response to this case, the state legislature changed state law to require that only the legislature could change the name of state colleges and universities.

Since USL had outgrown its double-directional name, the fight was not over for a name that was and is more reflective of the University’s accomplishments, achievements, and stature. Since the class of 1984 graduated with University of Louisiana diplomas, the vision was realized and the goal was set. Attempts at appeal were unsuccessful as the Louisiana Supreme Court refused to hear the case in October of 1986.

It took until 1995 for the Louisiana State Legislature to agree to allow the change. But, passage of Act 45 required a compromise that has become known as the “LSU Rule.” The LSU Rule required that at least two state universities change their name at the same time. It required that all universities who change their name change it to “University of Louisiana at [city designation].” It stipulated that the city designation must be used in all official university business and has since grown far beyond its original legislative language, to regulate minute details such as font sizes to be used by the respective universities. Additionally, the bill insisted that LSU was, and would remain, the "flagship university" of Louisiana. This was odd for a legislative act that had absolutely no bearing on LSU or the LSU System. Finally, that act changed the name of the Board of Trustees to the “University of Louisiana Board of Supervisors.”

Initially, it looked like Northeast Louisiana University would make the new name a reality, but they hesitated and stalled.

Finally, in 1999 Northeast’s Lawson Swearingen agreed to the name change. Ironically, as a Monroe area representative in the legislature back in 1984, he was one of the more vocal opponents of USL’s name change. The Board of Regents and the UL Board of Supervisors finally approved the name change in late August 1999. USL became UL Lafayette and NLU became UL Monroe.

USL officials decided to make it official at the Centennial Spectacular kicking off the yearlong celebration of the university’s 100th birthday. University of Louisiana was now a reality.

WHY LOUISIANA?

UL Lafayette (“LOUISIANA”), similar to UC Berkeley (“CALIFORNIA”), UT Knoxville (“TENNESSEE”), UA Fayetteville (“ARKANSAS”), UNC Chapel Hill ("NORTH CAROLINA"), and UT Austin (“TEXAS”), among others, is the largest and oldest of the schools that share the same name. Fortunately, the legislative law regarding the name change only applies to university and state employees. This state policy does not govern UL alumni, supporters, other universities, and certainly not the autonomy of the press. This leaves the door open for UL Lafayette to be commonly and popularly known as LOUISIANA, while maintaining the official name.

The goal is not to become the state's flagship university per se, as that position is held by Louisiana State University and A&M College at Baton Rouge. The goal is to provide excellence in education and community service to the Acadiana area as well as the entire state of Louisiana. Competition fosters excellence.

In 1991, UL became the state's first Doctoral II institution, which means it awards a high number of doctoral degrees and has a significant research agenda. This designation elevated the university to the ranks of Georgia Tech, Louisville, Clemson, William & Mary, and the University of Mississippi. Since that time, UL has continued to advance rapidly by implementing selective admissions, raising over $75 million in privately held assets, and earning an all-time high of nearly $30 million in R & D funding. Additionally, UL now offers 108 degrees in 10 colleges and schools.

Research

UL hosts three active research parks including the New Iberia Research Center, one of the largest primate centers in the United States & home of nationally renowned researcher, Dr. Daniel Povinelli. This UL professor is winner of one eight $1,000,000 McDonnell "Millennium Grants." Another center of research is the University Research Park that hosts the National Wetlands Center, National Marine Fisheries Center, and a state-funded robotics & virtual reality center. Other tenants include the NASA Regional Application Center, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. In progress include a University Hotel and a 3-D/4-D seismic research facility. The third is the "Cade Farm," a 600-acre agricultural research facility in nearby St. Martin parish, which is an international leader in crawfish research and renewable resources.

Leadership

The Department of Commerce has designated UL as the Manufacturing Extension Service for the state of Louisiana. Dr. Earnest Gaines and Wilma Subra are two UL faculty members who have each received one of the coveted MacArthur “Genius Grants,” the former for literature, and the latter for environmental activism. UL is founder and one of three governing institutions of the Louisiana University Marine Consortium, a state-of-the-art marine research facility in Cocodrie, Louisiana. According to the NRC, UL has the best computer science program in Louisiana and surrounding states. UL also is widely recognized for its architecture, biology, engineering, and CAD-CAM programs among many other areas of excellence.

Diversity

UL’s contributions well exceed academics and research, however, as the University has proven an international pioneer in human relations. In 1954, three months after the landmark Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, UL became the first school in the country to follow the Supreme Court's directive as it opened its doors to African American students. In ensuing years, it became the first school in the South to ban "Dixie" and the Rebel flag. In 1980 UL became the first historically white school in the South to elect an African-American as student government president. UL retains one of the most diverse student populations including large numbers of not only traditional American minorities, but also older students, foreign students, and physically challenged students among others.

Perhaps more impressive than any of these, however, is that the University has made these strides with resources most schools would find impossible. The University of Louisiana remains one of the lowest funded universities in the country. UL is state-funded at only 60% of the average for schools in its class. Despite this, the university surges forward in research, teaching, athletics, and alumni success. It continues to baffle visiting scholars, certification committees, and college administrators alike.

Competition is good. It fosters excellence by making all involved the best they can be. There is much attention given to "flagship" status in the state of Louisiana. But, a flagship acts as a leader and in the best interest of all involved – something that has been severely missed in Louisiana over the last several decades.

SUCCESS?

In the 2000 NCAA Basketball Tournament, ESPN & CBS referred to the Cajuns as The University of Louisiana, the long sought after name for the school. However, before their appearance in the 2000 College World Series, at the behest of LSU staff and administrators, ESPN discontinued the name "The University of Louisiana," and began using the longer and clumsier name of "Louisiana-Lafayette." The Cajuns were occasionally called “Lafayette,” which can be confused with the Lafayette College "Leopards" of Easton, PA.

Since some apparently believe in full names, it is interesting to note that ESPN did not reciprocate by calling LSU by its full name, “Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College at Baton Rouge.” LSU baseball coach Turtle Thomas even publicly stated that LSU was the University of Louisiana during the 2000 CWS. As the LSU and University of Louisiana systems are separate distinct entities, this only served to confuse the situation further. Why do they care?

Since then, however, the university has become popularly known as Louisiana, at least locally. Most of the local media cooperate and promote the name. Additionally, many national academic and athletic publications recognize the university as UL. Students are proud that they attend the University of Louisiana.

You may visit the University of Louisiana Ragin’ Cajuns’ official web site at http://www.louisiana.edu. Thank you for your interest.

UL Lafayette is Louisiana.

FACTS:

University of Louisiana:
"Ragin' Cajuns"
Founded 1898
Enrollment: 17,000
Faculty and Staff: 1200+
NCAA Division 1-A charter member
Selective Admissions
Lafayette MSA: 354,000

Other information:
Carnegie Doctoral/Research Intensive
SREB Doctoral II
Foundation: $75,000,000
1998 Extramural Research Funding: $25,000,000
$2 million Endowed Super Chair: 1
$1 million Endowed Chairs: 21
Endowed Professorships: 170

Doctoral Programs:
PhD English & Creative Writing
PhD Mathematics
PhD Computer Science
PhD Computer Engineering
PhD Cognitive Sciences
PhD Environmental & Evolutionary Biology
PhD Francophone Studies

Athletic Facilities:

Cajun Field (Football): 31,500 (earthworks bowl with grass overflow to 40,000+ and expandable to 70,000)

CAJUNDOME (Basketball): 12,800
Cajun Track: 5,000
M. L. Tigue Moore Baseball Field: 3,500
Lady Cajun Softball Park: 1,500
Earl K. Long Gym (women's athletics): 1,500
Cajun Courts: 1,000

NOTE: This page is done independently of and without the endorsement or permission of the University of Louisiana. It is intended to give users a background view of Louisiana's long battle for their rightful name. Thanks to the many individuals who contributed to this project.

[Turbine]

Here you go a few.
The first link is just my opinion, the second and third have links to downloaded official State .pdf files.

We Are LOUISIANA

University of Louisiana System

Name Change Guidelines

[ZoomZoom]

Historical point, McNeese was the lone dissenting vote. McNeese, thru the legislature via Cliff Newman, and Kevin Reilly for LSU (Lamar Advertising) led the resistance.

Those two universities are joined at the hip fighting the name. Look no further than the SID history of both. Doesn’t take a Mensa card to figure out who thru the years cried to the SEC Network, ESPN and others.

Even in the last year a prominent HS LC area coach pointed out the pettiness on the McLeast board. Post got tossed, but mid was called out for being petty.

Never forget who your enemies are. Never.

[fanof71]

It's funny seeing the narrative turn on The A&M college. Other fanbases openly laugh at their pettiness in all of this. I don't think there is a single fanbase in America other than the one in BR that openly complains or throws fits on how another school brands itself. It's comical and also sad.

It's that Louisiana inbreed colony on BR and Nola...