“One Bid” league

[CajunNation]

....And, it's the reason why the SBC has suggested playing teams at home that you can throttle as a way to improve the NET ranking.....

Everyone will be doing this. Amounts to a very clever ruse to isolate mid-majors out of the conversation. Eventually, this will create a system where nearly all mid majors will be locked in to 12 seeds or lower due to the pre-season ranking bias baked into the cake every year for major conferences.

It is very obvious how unfair and meaningless this ranking system is compared to RPI. Pure BS.

[Duckster]

P5 wont play on road and if they do on occasion its with a peer P5.....therefore Road wins needs a much bigger weighting in the NET. True for football & baseball too.

Conversely Home wins need to count even less than they do now.

Agree and it seems in basketball home field advantage is more pronounced than in other sports.

[ZoomZoom]

Everyone will be doing this. Amounts to a very clever ruse to isolate mid-majors out of the conversation. Eventually, this will create a system where nearly all mid majors will be locked in to 12 seeds or lower due to the pre-season ranking bias baked into the cake every year for major conferences.

It is very obvious how unfair and meaningless this ranking system is compared to RPI. Pure BS.

Yes. And while playing a MAC program is more attractive than a LSUA or LSUS, it has the same result at the end of the day.

[CajunNation]

Yes. And while playing a MAC program is more attractive than a LSUA or LSUS, it has the same result at the end of the day.

If this is how they want to play it. So be it. Drop the D II schools and load up on SWAC schools.

[CajunT]

Yes, of course.

But FAU is a 9 and Charleston is a 12. FAU beat Florida by 1. Charleston beat Virginia Tech by 1. FAU lost at Ole Miss. Charleston lost at North Carolina. I'll point out that Charleston's win over VT was at home.

Both teams were 31-3 with two losses in conference.

So why the huge discrepancy? Many of Charleston's OOC wins were by very close margins. FAU beat the tar out of their OOC opponents.

Strength of victory is a lot more important than we think. And, it's the reason why the SBC has suggested playing teams at home that you can throttle as a way to improve the NET ranking.

The numbers say they're right on.

Yes, but the most glaring difference between the two resumes that you failed to mention was the difference in Strength of Schedule. So, it's not just margin of victory but it also Strength of Schedule. That is the reason why the regular season schedule matters.

FAU 31-3 SOS#123 RPI .628 AWP .9408 OWP .5216
Char 31-3 SOS#254 RPI .591 AWP .9177 OWP .474

[ZoomZoom]

If this is how they want to play it. So be it. Drop the D II schools and load up on SWAC schools.

Depends who defined as “they”. If you’re talking those who control the NCAA, yes.

[JayWalker]

Yes, but the most glaring difference between the two resumes that you failed to mention was the difference in Strength of Schedule. So, it's not just margin of victory but it also Strength of Schedule. That is the reason why the regular season schedule matters.

FAU 31-3 SOS#123 RPI .628 AWP .9408 OWP .5216
Char 31-3 SOS#254 RPI .591 AWP .9177 OWP .474

You quote RPI figures which the NCAA no longer uses. I agree strength of schedule matters. But I'm telling ya....everything I'm reading says strength of victory matters a lot and it's the reason you're going to see fewer and fewer mid majors in the NCAA tournament.

[Cajunsmike]

You quote RPI figures which the NCAA no longer uses. I agree strength of schedule matters. But I'm telling ya....everything I'm reading says strength of victory matters a lot and it's the reason you're going to see fewer and fewer mid majors in the NCAA tournament.

This just means the conference tournament importance is magnified. How many mid majors got at large bids. I can think of Houston and St. Mary’s off the top if my head but those team’s tournament finals were meaningless and in basketball their conferences are not really mid major

[CajunT]

You quote RPI figures which the NCAA no longer uses. I agree strength of schedule matters. But I'm telling ya....everything I'm reading says strength of victory matters a lot and it's the reason you're going to see fewer and fewer mid majors in the NCAA tournament.

I haven't read that, but I'm not arguing against your suggestion that margin of victory is probably part of the explanation. I'm simply suggesting to you that while RPI is no longer part of the formula, it inevitably plays into their minds when assigning seeds. If I'm looking at Charleston's margin of victory and realize the majority of their wins are Quad 3 (12-2) and Quad 4 (16-0). I promise you the selection committee is looking at Quad wins & losses. Based upon that information, I don't see them as a #9 seed.

[CajunT]

You quote RPI figures which the NCAA no longer uses. I agree strength of schedule matters. But I'm telling ya....everything I'm reading says strength of victory matters a lot and it's the reason you're going to see fewer and fewer mid majors in the NCAA tournament.

And just for discussion purposes FAU has 2 Quad I wins and 4 Quad II wins. Charlotte has 0 Quad 1 wins and 2 Quad 2 wins. So while they have the same records, FAU's resume is better. They clearly are looking at Quad wins and losses.