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    A move to the AAC assumes things work the way they’ve always worked. Teams with upward mobility ambition work their way up to bigger name conferences until they get where they want to be.

    That era is basically over with the most recent set of moves. Staying in Sun Belt is the way to go. The remaining G5 teams are just going to continuously shuffle around, and Sun Belt is in the strongest posture for the next 5-10 years.

    That said, if attendance is the end all be all, then the AAC makes more sense because those names (and a new conference) will excite the casual fan base.


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    If the sbc sticks together then yes I agree it will be the place to be in the long run. I just have a feeling the eastern teams will eventually split off and form their own conference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Million$Mullet View Post
    If the sbc sticks together then yes I agree it will be the place to be in the long run. I just have a feeling the eastern teams will eventually split off and form their own conference.
    The bottom line is that we need to decide where we want to be in 20 years.

    Is it:

    A) Competing in the sunbelt, whatever iteration of that exists, maybe dominating and sniffing the CFP every 3-5 years

    Or

    B) Scratching and clawing our way toward being in the right place at right time for a P5 (Big 12 or otherwise) invite.

    If the answer is B, then you move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Million$Mullet View Post
    If the sbc sticks together then yes I agree it will be the place to be in the long run. I just have a feeling the eastern teams will eventually split off and form their own conference.
    They will not form another conference. Nobody is doing that. The NCAA has made it almost financially impossible to do that. However, we do have to worry about one thing.

    Big 12 raids the AAC again, remaing AAC western schools join the MWC, eastern AAC schools then add all of the eastern SBC schools.

    The SBC western division schools will add 1, 2 or 3 of the best available and call it a day. I'm thinking latech and MT/WKY.

    Texas State
    Louisiana
    Louisiana Tech
    ULM
    Arkansas State
    Southern Miss
    South Alabama
    Troy
    Middle Tennessee
    Western Kentucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    For sake of comparison,

    SBC AAC

    Louisiana Tulane
    USM Rice
    ULM Tulsa
    Ark State Memphis
    Texas State UTSA
    USA N. Texas
    Troy SMU

    GA State USF
    GA Southern FAU
    Coastal Charlotte
    ODU UAB
    James Madison Temple
    App State Navy
    Marshall ECU
    Witchita State - basketball

    The Western Division of both conferences where we play favors the AAC. Outside of USM, no one in the SBC excites our fans. In the AAC, we would play Tulane, Memphis, Rice, UTSA, N. Texas and Tulsa in the Western Division every year. A much better conference and more exciting for our fans and not much of a travel difference. Also, better recruiting cities for UL and more exposure playing in New Orleans, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Memphis and Tulsa.

    In all the SBC, the only teams that excite me are USM, App State and Marshall and I suspect a great majority of our fan base as well. Just look at our attendance. AAC divisional games plus Navy, ECU, USF at home that would be a major plus for attendance. And, we would be associated with higher academic universities. Perception is huge and the AAC has a much better perception than the SBC and would definitely change the perception of Louisiana, especially around the state.

    This is not likely to happen as the AAC would probably not see Lafayette as a major market and UL would not want to spend the money to make such a move. Too bad, because it would be a big step up for UL, IMO, even without Houston, Cincy and UCF.
    I agree with you on the exciting matchups, another reason I want LA Tech in the SBC despite what many here say. Regional rivalries are more important than ever. USA, CCU & James Madison should be exciting matchups as well in football. As we have seen with consecutive top 25 seasons, we CANNOT rely on our fans to get excited regardless.

    However, a new stadium done right with a better festival type atmosphere is the best way to get increased community support at this point. A new stadium and the hope of making a 12-team Championship playoff and we go from the Candlestick Park San Francisco Giants to the ATT/Oracle Park Giants! That's better than relying on the conference jumping circus! That is something WE control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    They will not form another conference. Nobody is doing that. The NCAA has made it almost financially impossible to do that. However, we do have to worry about one thing.

    Big 12 raids the AAC again, remaing AAC western schools join the MWC, eastern AAC schools then add all of the eastern SBC schools.

    The SBC western division schools will add 1, 2 or 3 of the best available and call it a day. I'm thinking latech and MT/WKY.

    Texas State
    Louisiana
    Louisiana Tech
    ULM
    Arkansas State
    Southern Miss
    South Alabama
    Troy
    Middle Tennessee
    Western Kentucky
    At that point, the Eastern schools in the SBC might just want their own conference. These 10 schools could have their own conference as well.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fresno-st...010745520.html

    Kinda related to thread. Nice to have a pro-active president. Also, they are using attendance as a selling point, guess we're screwed
    Anyway, enjoy the read!

    Geaux Cajuns!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Million$Mullet View Post
    If the sbc sticks together then yes I agree it will be the place to be in the long run. I just have a feeling the eastern teams will eventually split off and form their own conference.
    Oh they will. IF…if AAC loses enough members at some point where the entire SBC east joins the AAC all together.

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    Heard interesting convo on ESPNU radio yesterday.

    CBS has backed out of the PAC12 tv negotiations. They are screwed.

    Apparently, Oregon and UW are destined for for the Big10. Matter of time. Also, they mentioned that the Big 12 is circling. Word is they are after the Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado.

    I think the Big 12 is done with AAC schools. They have bigger fish to fry.


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    Fresno state in the mix as well


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