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    Top 6 conference champions get an automatic playoff bid starting in 2024. SBC will be in a prime position in 2024 and going forward to send their conference champion to the college football 12 team playoffs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp View Post
    I like the stature of the AAC as well. I really like what uptown Nola did this year, added even more legitimacy to the AAC stock and brand. Check this out - we finished @ AP 16 in Napier's final season at Louisiana. 16. Which Bowl were we invited to? NOLA Bowl. Again. Fast forward to 2022, Tulane finishes @ AP 16. Where did Tulane bowl? The f'n Cotton Bowl v USC, and win.
    Let’s remain factual . . . they earned what they got and got what they earned . . . Likewise we earned what we got and got what we earned . . . circumstances that matter were not the same . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp View Post
    I like the stature of the AAC as well. I really like what uptown Nola did this year, added even more legitimacy to the AAC stock and brand. Check this out - we finished @ AP 16 in Napier's final season at Louisiana. 16. Which Bowl were we invited to? NOLA Bowl. Again. Fast forward to 2022, Tulane finishes @ AP 16. Where did Tulane bowl? The f'n Cotton Bowl v USC, and win.
    You are correct however our best chance to get in the upcoming 12-team playoff may actually be the SBC. The Sun Belt has made huge strides and we are a loyal core program. For the first time in a long time the conference we are in is going in the right direction. We have a huge regional rivalry matchup tonight in basketball for first place!

    We should always strive for better but with our budget as it is now I don't think we can really ask to be a in much better stable conference situation at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun55 View Post
    You are correct however our best chance to get in the upcoming 12-team playoff may actually be the SBC. The Sun Belt has made huge strides and we are a loyal core program. For the first time in a long time the conference we are in is going in the right direction. We have a huge regional rivalry matchup tonight in basketball for first place!

    We should always strive for better but with our budget as it is now I don't think we can really ask to be a in much better stable conference situation at the moment.
    Exactly plus the SBC just received a raise from ESPN through the tv contract for one . Also most of the games on the schedule can be done by bus AAC can't say that their conference is spread all over the country. IMO the AAC will end up looking like CUSA in about 5 years or more. AAC lost most of their power with Houston , Cincy and Houston leaving and if SMU goes to the PAC 12 who's left in the AAC besides tulane and houston?
    SBC is growing and getting stronger day by day and when the playoff system goes to 12 teams the SBC IMO run neck to neck with a depleted. big 12 and pac 12 conference . With Texas and Oklahoma leaving for the SEC and USC AND UCLA going to the BIG 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckster View Post
    Should we make strong push to join AAC if SMU is indeed invited to join the Pac 12? Certainly it would be expensive at first to join AAC. However looking long term, the scheduling and revenue upside seems much greater than SBC. If there is an opening, UL should take a closer look at pursuing AAC membership.
    Hell to the no! That will become CUSA 4.0. The SBC is in a much stronger position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajungrad2001 View Post
    Exactly plus the SBC just received a raise from ESPN through the tv contract for one . Also most of the games on the schedule can be done by bus AAC can't say that their conference is spread all over the country. IMO the AAC will end up looking like CUSA in about 5 years or more. AAC lost most of their power with Houston , Cincy and Houston leaving and if SMU goes to the PAC 12 who's left in the AAC besides tulane and houston?
    SBC is growing and getting stronger day by day and when the playoff system goes to 12 teams the SBC IMO run neck to neck with a depleted. big 12 and pac 12 conference . With Texas and Oklahoma leaving for the SEC and USC AND UCLA going to the BIG 10
    For sake of comparison,

    SBC AAC

    Louisiana Tulane
    USM Rice
    ULM Tulsa
    Ark State Memphis
    Texas State UTSA
    USA N. Texas
    Troy SMU

    GA State USF
    GA Southern FAU
    Coastal Charlotte
    ODU UAB
    James Madison Temple
    App State Navy
    Marshall ECU
    Witchita State - basketball

    The Western Division of both conferences where we play favors the AAC. Outside of USM, no one in the SBC excites our fans. In the AAC, we would play Tulane, Memphis, Rice, UTSA, N. Texas and Tulsa in the Western Division every year. A much better conference and more exciting for our fans and not much of a travel difference. Also, better recruiting cities for UL and more exposure playing in New Orleans, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Memphis and Tulsa.

    In all the SBC, the only teams that excite me are USM, App State and Marshall and I suspect a great majority of our fan base as well. Just look at our attendance. AAC divisional games plus Navy, ECU, USF at home that would be a major plus for attendance. And, we would be associated with higher academic universities. Perception is huge and the AAC has a much better perception than the SBC and would definitely change the perception of Louisiana, especially around the state.

    This is not likely to happen as the AAC would probably not see Lafayette as a major market and UL would not want to spend the money to make such a move. Too bad, because it would be a big step up for UL, IMO, even without Houston, Cincy and UCF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    For sake of comparison,

    SBC AAC

    Louisiana Tulane
    USM Rice
    ULM Tulsa
    Ark State Memphis
    Texas State UTSA
    USA N. Texas
    Troy SMU

    GA State USF
    GA Southern FAU
    Coastal Charlotte
    ODU UAB
    James Madison Temple
    App State Navy
    Marshall ECU
    Witchita State - basketball

    The Western Division of both conferences where we play favors the AAC. Outside of USM, no one in the SBC excites our fans. In the AAC, we would play Tulane, Memphis, Rice, UTSA, N. Texas and Tulsa in the Western Division every year. A much better conference and more exciting for our fans and not much of a travel difference. Also, better recruiting cities for UL and more exposure playing in New Orleans, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Memphis and Tulsa.

    In all the SBC, the only teams that excite me are USM, App State and Marshall and I suspect a great majority of our fan base as well. Just look at our attendance. AAC divisional games plus Navy, ECU, USF at home that would be a major plus for attendance. And, we would be associated with higher academic universities. Perception is huge and the AAC has a much better perception than the SBC and would definitely change the perception of Louisiana, especially around the state.

    This is not likely to happen as the AAC would probably not see Lafayette as a major market and UL would not want to spend the money to make such a move. Too bad, because it would be a big step up for UL, IMO, even without Houston, Cincy and UCF.
    SMU in this scenario is in the PAC.

    The SBC is a better football conference and has a better shot at the CFP. Stay the course.

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    It seems almost crazy to think this but Sun Belt 2024 and beyond is the G5 place to be........UNTIL.....the home schedule dates/times for football come out then the whining about our poor Sun Belt home games blows out of proportion for the next 6+ weeks.


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    Agree we will have same opportunity to make the CFP from SBC as from AAC or MWC. Also agree Houston, Cinn, & UCF were AAC top tier programs. Just comparing our home football conference games this coming season (ULM, GA St., TX St, USM) vs. potential four of Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, UNT, or Rice, and sometimes Navy playing in Cajun Field there's an upgrade in AAC. And think about basketball, that's another step up in competition. I'm not totally down on SBC, its exciting to have So. Miss in same conference. SBC has come a long way in 20 years and believe UL has something to do with that. Looking at the lay of the land, seems the long term ceiling for AAC is higher than SBC for UL even with conference realignment continuing to churn in the years ahead.


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    The pecking order then and now remains the same until the SBC overtakes the AAC.


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