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    I think if we win out and that is going to be hard, that would mean winning all 8 of the remaining regular season games and then 3 in the tournament and defeating Marshall and USM (2 times in the regular season) at least once each and possibly multiple times, there is a slim, slim chance we could move up to a 12 seed. That would put us at 29-4 with some decent wins.

    I think depending on what happens from here on out the likely scenario is a 13 seed, but I could see where the Cajuns or USM or Marshall have a path to a 12 seed, but it would be highly unlikely. To me, the likelihood of one of the 3 top teams in the SBC will be a 13 seed.

    If anyone outside of the top 3 (Marshall, USM and/or UL) wins the conference tournament and wins the games they are at least supposed to win, then the SBC representative will be a 15 or 16 seed.

    UL has a chance to make a case for a 12 seed, but it would mean winning all of the games we are supposed to win (Texas State (twice), ULM, Arkansas State and USA) as well as winning vs toss up games vs Marshall, USM and JMU. Then taking the #1 seed in the SBC and winning all three games, preferably having to face at least one of Marshall/USM in the process.

    That is a tall task, but it is possible. I think if all of that happens and we get some help from teams ahead of us losing and we can move our NET number up, we have a chance.

    Our biggest detriment are a couple of things, the loss to Coastal hurts, more than the loss to Drake or ODU for a couple of reasons, Coastal has been really bad since that game and we were up for most of it, it should have been a win. That Quad 4 loss is big. And secondly, we are not getting help from teams that are traditionally pretty good, like Harvard, ETSU, SMU, La Tech, etc. These teams are marred in the Mid 100's or lower in NET ranking and of course UNO and McNeese have not helped at all as they are in the 200's. Our best non conference win is Harvard who is 140, our best conference win is USM who is 67. We need Marshall and USM to win every game they play except for when they play us and we need to beat both of them every time we might face them.


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    USM in Hattiesburg is going to be a chore, they have been having good turnouts to their games and have been loud. We need a good contingent of cajuns at that game to offset some of their home court advantage


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    I think if we win out and that is going to be hard, that would mean winning all 8 of the remaining regular season games and then 3 in the tournament and defeating Marshall and USM (2 times in the regular season) at least once each and possibly multiple times, there is a slim, slim chance we could move up to a 12 seed. That would put us at 29-4 with some decent wins.

    I think depending on what happens from here on out the likely scenario is a 13 seed, but I could see where the Cajuns or USM or Marshall have a path to a 12 seed, but it would be highly unlikely. To me, the likelihood of one of the 3 top teams in the SBC will be a 13 seed.

    If anyone outside of the top 3 (Marshall, USM and/or UL) wins the conference tournament and wins the games they are at least supposed to win, then the SBC representative will be a 15 or 16 seed.

    UL has a chance to make a case for a 12 seed, but it would mean winning all of the games we are supposed to win (Texas State (twice), ULM, Arkansas State and USA) as well as winning vs toss up games vs Marshall, USM and JMU. Then taking the #1 seed in the SBC and winning all three games, preferably having to face at least one of Marshall/USM in the process.

    That is a tall task, but it is possible. I think if all of that happens and we get some help from teams ahead of us losing and we can move our NET number up, we have a chance.

    Our biggest detriment are a couple of things, the loss to Coastal hurts, more than the loss to Drake or ODU for a couple of reasons, Coastal has been really bad since that game and we were up for most of it, it should have been a win. That Quad 4 loss is big. And secondly, we are not getting help from teams that are traditionally pretty good, like Harvard, ETSU, SMU, La Tech, etc. These teams are marred in the Mid 100's or lower in NET ranking and of course UNO and McNeese have not helped at all as they are in the 200's. Our best non conference win is Harvard who is 140, our best conference win is USM who is 67. We need Marshall and USM to win every game they play except for when they play us and we need to beat both of them every time we might face them.
    Dave gets it...and, might add, to get to a 12th seed, some other "locks" will have to loose along the way, mainly in their conference tournaments...

    Rouga, White & Blue...learn something and read Daves post..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    Dave gets it...and, might add, to get to a 12th seed, some other "locks" will have to loose along the way, mainly in their conference tournaments...

    Rouga, White & Blue...learn something and read Daves post..
    Agree, it is going to be a tall task to get there and we have to hope for some help, but it is possible. We can only do what we can do, if we do that I think we are guaranteed a 13 seed, but with a little help with teams right above us in their tournaments, we could sneak into a 12 seed.

    Our work starts tomorrow night as the Texas State game is the biggest of the season, because it is the next one. We can not worry about Marshall and USM until we play them Saturday and Thursday, we need to focus on Texas State and win that one. One game at a time, one win at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    Dave gets it...and, might add, to get to a 12th seed, some other "locks" will have to loose along the way, mainly in their conference tournaments...

    Rouga, White & Blue...learn something and read Daves post..
    I agree it is a good and well explained post. But it doesnt address the “why” as to just one team from the league. Nor do I think my post disputed what anyone else typed previously. His post is specific to us and our seeding, I didnt ask about that. I was more interested in a general sense about the conference’s full representation and not tied to a specific season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RougaWhite&Blue View Post
    I agree it is a good and well explained post. But it doesnt address the “why” as to just one team from the league. Nor do I think my post disputed what anyone else typed previously. His post is specific to us and our seeding, I didnt ask about that. I was more interested in a general sense about the conference’s full representation and not tied to a specific season.
    No I was not responding to you or anyone just saying my thoughts on where we will or can end up if we make the NCAA's.

    The good news for the SBC is because of the new teams in the SBC we have moved up from roughly the #16-18 ranked conference to the #13-15 ranked conference, unfortunately even with that move it does not give you more seats at the table when it comes to the big dance. It does however give you a better chance at making the NIT even if you don't win the conference. I think that the SBC is a 1 bid NCAA league and will be for the forseeable future. But I think with the 14 teams we have now, their is a good chance that at least one possibly 2 can make the NIT and our conference champion or the top couple of teams in the league (unless they are upset and a mid to bottom team wins the SBC tournament) will be a 12-13 seed annually.

    I think this conference is much better with ODU, JMU, Marshall and USM in it and will be for a long time in many sports, including football, basketball, women's basketball, baseball and softball.

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    We could run the regular season table but stAte at 300+ NET and others in the 200 range doesn’t move the needle upward. One slight addition, McLeast limps in with a 338 NET, UNO 355 (367 total# of teams). Both have stunk it up, McLeast may not even make a tournament they blackmailed the SLC to host. Injuries allegedly.

    Great analysis Dave, as always.

    We have a classic trap game Thursday night then playing Marshall who has the best guard combo in the league Saturday night.

    A lot on the plate just this week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    No I was not responding to you or anyone just saying my thoughts on where we will or can end up if we make the NCAA's.

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    I know, thanks for the clarification and updateÂ….I didnt think i was either, but others seem to know the intent of other posters better than the posters themselvesÂ… Politickers gonna Politic but the big fan only blows some of the leaves away.

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    Cause nobody in the conference schedules anybody worth a ____ nonconference


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    Found this in a MAC board, future playing dates.
    2023-24
    Nov. 8-Nov. 11 – MAC Women at Sun Belt Women
    Nov. 8-Nov. 11 – Sun Belt Men at MAC Men
    Feb. 10 – Sun Belt Women at MAC Women
    Feb. 10 – MAC Men at Sun Belt Men

    2024-25
    Nov. 6-Nov. 9 – Sun Belt Women at MAC Women
    Nov. 6-Nov. 9 – MAC Men at Sun Belt Men
    Feb. 8 – MAC Women at Sun Belt Women
    Feb. 8 – Sun Belt Men at MAC Men


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