Damar Hamlin

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ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin is breathing on his own and able to talk after having his breathing tube removed.

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[Turbine]

I read this a moment ago

"Since 1995, there have only been 200 documented cases of commotio cordis in the United States. It's mostly seen in athletes between the ages of 8 and 18 partaking in sports with projectiles, according to the University of Connecticut’s Korey Stringer Institute, dedicated to preventing sudden death in sports."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...9cb0e166c216f8

[Bandwagon King]

Sorry been busy at work since last responding.

As far as Neuro assessment, there is a lot an assessment can determine in terms of neurological function. The biggest part of the assessment would be respiratory drive (ability to breath without vent support). If they can reduce the supportive measures of the ventilator, at least to the point to assess spontaneous breaths {ability for him to take a breath without ventilator offering a breath}) then that would indicate that his brain did not take damage to the point of requiring life support. The next biggest assessment would be his alertness, however some patients awake from sedation confused and combative (not all but some), with that said…if he wakes up gently and is able to open his eyes and move his fingers to command (upon request by the nurse or physician) then he would be showing more signs of alertness and less signs of requiring sedation.

If he can be off sedation then tolerate less ventilator support, at that point the physician would do blood work (ABG = arterial blood gas) to assess if he is Oxygenating well on his own.

If he is alert, responding appropriately, and breathing well on his own while on the ventilator…then it’s very likely they would take he tube out his lungs and take him off life support.


Of note…in my experience, Lack of oxygen has nothin todo with lung impairment. However it does have everything todo with neurological impairment.

With that said, they won’t know if he has any long term issues until they take the tube out his mouth (take him off life support). Then he will participate with therapist to assess if he has any dysfunction physically.

Hope this info helps clear any questions

CH, the reports today sound really good. Young Mr. Hamlin having his tube removed & is able to talk with buds on the team & so forth. Can you give us a ball park figure as to how long at the rate of recovery Damar is having that he will need to remain in ICU & how long in the hospital? Also, even though it is a consensus agreement among medical experts on the comotio cordis prognosis, will the medical team still want to perform a battery of tests to rule out any blockages, possible malfunctions, or other pre existing conditions he might have had assisted in the severity of his trauma? Again much thanks on educating the board on the important minutia that you guys & your patients have to deal with in assisting people's recoveries.

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I read this a moment ago

"Since 1995, there have only been 200 documented cases of commotio cordis in the United States. It's mostly seen in athletes between the ages of 8 and 18 partaking in sports with projectiles, according to the University of Connecticut’s Korey Stringer Institute, dedicated to preventing sudden death in sports."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...9cb0e166c216f8

Suddenly across the country rec departments are either purchasing or receiving defib units in a rush. Sad part is the spin is we need to protect our youth when the harsh reality is liability lawsuits.

[CajunsHat]

CH, the reports today sound really good. Young Mr. Hamlin having his tube removed & is able to talk with buds on the team & so forth. Can you give us a ball park figure as to how long at the rate of recovery Damar is having that he will need to remain in ICU & how long in the hospital? Also, even though it is a consensus agreement among medical experts on the comotio cordis prognosis, will the medical team still want to perform a battery of tests to rule out any blockages, possible malfunctions, or other pre existing conditions he might have had assisted in the severity of his trauma? Again much thanks on educating the board on the important minutia that you guys & your patients have to deal with in assisting people's recoveries.

In all likelihood, he will be transitioned out of the ICU within 24 hours (given no further complications are noticed). He will also likely have therapy team consulted to evaluate and treat (physical, occupational, speech) of note, speech will evaluate his ability communicate, swallow, as well as detect memory issues. Once he passes the speech eval, they will allow him to eat/drink (this is done too because the breathing tube can cause inflammation to parts of the throat that involve speech and swallowing. If he has trouble talking clearly, he could have swelling which would cause him to choke on a simple sip of water. But that swelling goes down rather quickly).

He will likely be transferred to a cardiac unit in the hospital to continue to monitor his heart rhythm. By now they should have performed all the test they need to evaluate for cardiac issues (blockages, etc) however I have 99% confidence he didn’t have blockage, as that would show up on his ekg or cardiac monitoring.

I’d also say he will likely pass his other therapy evals, and will likely be put on cardiac medications to ensure his rhythms stabilize. As long as his vital signs and cardiac rhythms are stable, they will continue to progesss him and eventually discharge him. He will likely have many follow ups with cardiologist to ensure this was all an isolated event.

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In all likelihood, he will be transitioned out of the ICU within 24 hours (given no further complications are noticed). He will also likely have therapy team consulted to evaluate and treat (physical, occupational, speech) of note, speech will evaluate his ability communicate, swallow, as well as detect memory issues. Once he passes the speech eval, they will allow him to eat/drink (this is done too because the breathing tube can cause inflammation to parts of the throat that involve speech and swallowing. If he has trouble talking clearly, he could have swelling which would cause him to choke on a simple sip of water. But that swelling goes down rather quickly).

He will likely be transferred to a cardiac unit in the hospital to continue to monitor his heart rhythm. By now they should have performed all the test they need to evaluate for cardiac issues (blockages, etc) however I have 99% confidence he didn’t have blockage, as that would show up on his ekg or cardiac monitoring.

I’d also say he will likely pass his other therapy evals, and will likely be put on cardiac medications to ensure his rhythms stabilize. As long as his vital signs and cardiac rhythms are stable, they will continue to progesss him and eventually discharge him. He will likely have many follow ups with cardiologist to ensure this was all an isolated event.

Do you think he plays ball again?

[Big Buds]

Do you think he plays ball again?

I seriously doubt it but you just never know.

What a miraculous recovery. Being in peak physical condition definitely helped. It’s truly amazing!

[HelmutVII]

In all likelihood, he will be transitioned out of the ICU within 24 hours (given no further complications are noticed). He will also likely have therapy team consulted to evaluate and treat (physical, occupational, speech) of note, speech will evaluate his ability communicate, swallow, as well as detect memory issues. Once he passes the speech eval, they will allow him to eat/drink (this is done too because the breathing tube can cause inflammation to parts of the throat that involve speech and swallowing. If he has trouble talking clearly, he could have swelling which would cause him to choke on a simple sip of water. But that swelling goes down rather quickly).

He will likely be transferred to a cardiac unit in the hospital to continue to monitor his heart rhythm. By now they should have performed all the test they need to evaluate for cardiac issues (blockages, etc) however I have 99% confidence he didn’t have blockage, as that would show up on his ekg or cardiac monitoring.

I’d also say he will likely pass his other therapy evals, and will likely be put on cardiac medications to ensure his rhythms stabilize. As long as his vital signs and cardiac rhythms are stable, they will continue to progesss him and eventually discharge him. He will likely have many follow ups with cardiologist to ensure this was all an isolated event.

Tell me about follow up visits with a cardiologist.

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Whatever DH does, he won’t waste the platform God has given him. I feel a deep joy for him.

[CajunsHat]

Tell me about follow up visits with a cardiologist.

My experience is within the ICU, I would not have any personal experience in what happens with the follow up visits, so I wouldn’t feel confident in providing details about that aspect of care.

[CajunsHat]

Do you think he plays ball again?

Hard to say if he plays again.

I would imagine, he isn’t playing anytime soon. And he will have to be cleared by cardiology and team physician.

But honestly, I don’t know.

[HelmutVII]

My experience is within the ICU, I would not have any personal experience in what happens with the follow up visits, so I wouldn’t feel confident in providing details about that aspect of care.

I have had follow up visits every six months for five years. I know a little about them