Damar Hamlin

[R1Letterman]

As with any study, I'm sure there are holes you can poke in it. That's a good critical way to look at it. But in the end, if the raw numbers show you are 1000x more likely to get myocarditis from covid than from the vaccine, what does that number change to if you start looking at only specific scenarios? 500x? 250x? 100x?

Point is, it would take a monster change to really change the conclusion from this info.

We've talked about this before. All the choices have risks. Getting vaccinated has a risk (very very low). Getting covid has a risk. Taking any number of medications to treat covid and/or pneumonia has a risk. This is all up to your own risk tolerance and what you think is the right thing.

not if the denominator of the vaxxed # includes people that are vaxxed but not checked for myocarditis

[BabbForHeisman]

thanks. but you keep using 2-4% without updating for vaxxed results.

also 2-4% also leaves a 100% error possibility

Actually, the orders of magnitude we are dealing with here far outweigh the difference between 2% and 4%. So you can talk all day about 2% or 4%, but in the end, its all still way way way way higher than 0.002%.

[R1Letterman]

Actually, the orders of magnitude we are dealing with here far outweigh the difference between 2% and 4%. So you can talk all day about 2% or 4%, but in the end, its all still way way way way higher than 0.002%.

but there is also a huge difference in order of magnititude between all people and college athletes and which are more likely to be checked, thus increasing numerator while lowerimg denominator, a double dip

[BabbForHeisman]

not if the denominator of the vaxxed # includes people that are vaxxed but not checked for myocarditis

True. But think about the numbers in what you are saying.

Let's assume something outlandish...for every 1 vaccinated person that has myocarditis, there are 100 vaccinated people that have undiagnosed. (That's probably pretty ridiculous, but let's play it out).

Your numerator just got 2 orders of magnitude bigger. Which means that you are still 10x more likely to get myocarditis from a covid infection than from the vaccine. 10x!

I don't know, we're really just guessing here. But for my own personal risk assessment, I will trust data over guesses.

[R1Letterman]

how are they differentiating those with all three, with covid, with vaxx and with myocarditis, removed from numbers completely? or automatically assigned to the from covid # and ignored from the vaxx#

really doesnt sound like we will know anything until the college athlete # is the vaxxed number as well and the age group is the same.

also what is the pre covid age group most likely to get myocarditis?

[R1Letterman]

Boxers in general don’t get the bulk of the revenue. Promoters and overhead get the vast majority of the revenue. Don’t know about MMA.

Just about every boxer with a reasonably long career becomes punch drunk now called CTE.

I would suspect any sport in which one of the primary goals is to create a concussion aka knockout is causing CTE syndrome.

fair enough about the $, but arent boxing careers longer than football on average, and at least 50(???+++) blows to head in each match compared to less than one per game? (except for lineman/RBs)

[R1Letterman]

and those promoters are usually hand chosen by the boxer,(one on one deals) whereas nfl players dont choose their owners, except maybe in free agency

[ManAboutTown]

"Per the physicians caring for Damar Hamlin at UCMC, Damar has shown remarkable improvement over the past 24 hours. While still critically ill, he has demonstrated that he appears to be neurologically intact. His lungs continue to heal and he is making steady progress.

We are grateful for the love and support we have received."

Just released by the Buffalo Bills on social media.

Wow. Wow. Wow. How incredible.

[ZoomZoom]

"Per the physicians caring for Damar Hamlin at UCMC, Damar has shown remarkable improvement over the past 24 hours. While still critically ill, he has demonstrated that he appears to be neurologically intact. His lungs continue to heal and he is making steady progress.

We are grateful for the love and support we have received."

Just released by the Buffalo Bills on social media.

Wow. Wow. Wow. How incredible.

God is good.

[CajunVic]

I pray for Damar and I also continue to pray for those that have taken the shot. So, he gets it twice from me . . .

[CajunEXPRESS]

and those promoters are usually hand chosen by the boxer,(one on one deals) whereas nfl players dont choose their owners, except maybe in free agency

If you believe that the typical boxer chooses the promoter I’ve got Nevada beach front property I can sell you cheap. Don King had a straggle hold on the title.

Boxers. Very successful boxers rarely reach 50 bouts. The typical NFL player is about a 3-5 year career. So they both have around 50 contests in a career. Regardless nobody seems to care what happens to boxers. We’re certainly not outlawing it. Same for MMA. Those fighting sports also are mostly for the uneducated as opposed to football.

We witnessed what became of the Louisville Lip. In the end he wasn’t floating like a butterfly and Don King got very wealthy by promoting Ali.

[Turbine]

https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/sta...Kg5A-7U_YeuqNw

I remember when a reporter embedded with the troops at the beginning of Desert Storm and died of a blood clot that formed because he had to curl up for days while traveling.

I wonder how many of the athletes she mentioned died trying to go from zero to sixty after laying low for a year or so.