Final: Louisiana, 78, McNeese 70

[zephyr]

So I have played and coached basketball for a long time, including a short stint in AAU ball. But there is a rule, I just don't understand. The new flopping rule, I get and it should have been instituted, but we actually got penalized for them flopping. What I mean by that is this, we had the ball under the basket, about to make a layup or McNeese commit a foul, instead the kid flops and they call a Technical on McNeese, okay so far so good, but here is where it gets totally f'd up. We get 1 Technical FT and they get the ball. We had a chance at at least 2 points if not 3 and instead we get 1 FT and McNeese gets the ball. How is that even remotely a fair trade. Either it should be 2 FT's or 1 FT and the ball back to us. You are actually rewarding the flopping team by giving them the ball after 1 FT.

This 5h!t is F'd up.

I believe this is something they've already decided to address in the offseason. I think, now that it's been in use, there is a body of work already to go off of and improve the rule and its consequences

[MelRock]

I think the flopping rule was designed to speed up the game, and all it did was slow it down. If you want to speed up the game, go to four quarters like every other organized basketball game.

[ragin50]

I think the flopping rule was designed to speed up the game, and all it did was slow it down. If you want to speed up the game, go to four quarters like every other organized basketball game.

Totally agree. Go to 4 quarters like the women do. Bonus is on the 5th foul of the quarter with 2 shots, no one and one. Also, I like advancing the ball to half court after a time out at the end.

[MelRock]

Totally agree. Go to 4 quarters like the women do. Bonus is on the 5th foul of the quarter with 2 shots, no one and one. Also, I like advancing the ball to half court after a time out at the end.

Men's college basketball is the only organized basketball that still uses halves. I will disagree with you on the two shots for free throws. I love the one and one. I think only shooting fouls should be two shots. One-and-one would also speed up the time of the game. You miss the first free throw, and you are back to playing basketball. I know it will never happen, but that is my wish. I love the discussions.

[zeppelincajun]

https://www.kplctv.com/2021/08/04/mc...chool-history/

https://ragincajuns.com/news/2021/6/...enovation.aspx

Naming rights breakdown:
"Little Brother": $2.5 million over 10 years
"Big Brother": $15 million over 15 years

[MelRock]

https://www.kplctv.com/2021/08/04/mc...chool-history/

https://ragincajuns.com/news/2021/6/...enovation.aspx

Naming rights breakdown:
"Little Brother": $25 million over 10 years
"Big Brother": $15 million over 15 years

Maybe I am missing something, but the way I read it is 250K over 10 years to get to the 2.5 million.

...gifted $2.5 million over 10 years...

[BeauCajun]

https://www.kplctv.com/2021/08/04/mc...chool-history/

https://ragincajuns.com/news/2021/6/...enovation.aspx

Naming rights breakdown:
"Little Brother": $25 million over 10 years
"Big Brother": $15 million over 15 years

Correction. It’s $2.5M over 10 years. Still small time.

[zeppelincajun]

Maybe I am missing something, but the way I read it is 250K over 10 years to get to the 2.5 million.

You're right. I'm an idiot. That makes way more sense. I was getting seriously concerned about our fundraising abilities.

[MelRock]

You're right. I'm an idiot. That makes way more sense. I was getting seriously concerned about our fundraising abilities.

No worries. I think the lead would have been Micky Neese receiving a $25 million gift. All good.

[RaginDave]

I'm sure RD will respond, but I remember either Fulks or maybe Williams friving to the basket, making a shift to the left in the lane, and the McNeese defender falling, clearly with no contact. Our player is going up for the layup a step after that.

Wait for Dave though, for the real story.

That is exactly what happened, the only reason that McNeese got possession of the missed basket was because the player hit the floor and the whistle immediately blew and our player stopped moving. Again, if the player does not flop it is either a made basket a foul or the two player fight for position and see who gets the rebound. Once the whistle blew and the McNeese player hit the ground for no reason it changed the complexion of what was going to happen.

McNeese benefited from the call more than we benefited from it. It doesn't make any sense. I agree it should either be a two shot technical and possession back to the defensive team or 1 shot Technical and possession back to the offense.

Anything else is just not going to change a team from choosing to flop. Okay let me get this right, I flop you get 1 point and I have the immediate chance to get 2 or 3 points on the next possession. Win for the floppers.

[Jeaux]

That’s exactly what happened. What I’m saying is the reason mcneese retained possession is because the flop was called on the missed shot that they rebounded. I don’t agree with it.

I thought the flop occurred while our guy was moving to his left. That happened before the shot. The play shouldn't have counted and there shouldn't have been a rebound. I had turned off the sound at that point so I really didn't know what was going on. Just new the commentators we're bad so I wasn't gonna listen to there hot takes anyways

[RaginDave]

I thought the flop occurred while our guy was moving to his left. That happened before the shot. The play shouldn't have counted and there shouldn't have been a rebound. I had turned off the sound at that point so I really didn't know what was going on. Just new the commentators we're bad so I wasn't gonna listen to there hot takes anyways

So I immediately knew what happened but the bozo's doing the commentating were lost. They kept saying, I am not sure what the call is or what is going on. Anyone with half a brain could see what the call was. The flop did occur before the shot, that is why I could not understand how McNeese got the ball back. I am not blaming McNeese or even the refs for this. I am more concerned that this is a rule that the NCAA needs to address and correct in the future.