Journey and Toto at the dome

[CajunVic]

Looks like Melrock and I were at two fantastic Journey concerts in the early 80’s

[Cajun fan1]

Saw Journey twice in the 80’s also. On one of them was hit by a drunk driver in head on collision. He was so drunk he was on the wrong side of Evangeline Throughway driving with his lights off.

Missed the balance of my semester at Louisiana . . . 29 days in LG with compound fracture on left leg and dislocated hip on right. All professors except for my major gave my grades w/o taking finals . . . major was a progressive course and professor wanted to make sure I learned ALL the material . . . he was right

nar·cis·sist
/ˈnärsəsəst/
noun
1.
a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves:

[CajunVic]

nar·cis·sist
/ˈnärsəsəst/
noun
1.
a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves:

BWK

[Lafitte the Pirate]

Bobby Kimball is from Vinton. He is currently making a movie. Do not know if he will be available.

[HelmutVII]

Three or four people in a band can't withstand turnover ( or death)as much as 6 or more. Tower of power is a prime example. David Garibaldi, Emelio Castillo and Doc Kupka are the core of a group of 11 or 12 members. If you listen to tower of power today versus when they started you could say they are better in many ways today. The music has evolved.

Toto has 8 in it's tour group while journey has 6 current members and 12 former members. Both have evolved in their musical style. Not to say that is bad it's just evolving.

Many of the big band groups like Count Basie, Buddy Rich Les Brown had dramatic turnover in the group. Buddy Rich would fire a guy for missing a note during a sight reading session. He was ..... difficult.

Smaller groups like ZZ and Rush just can't weather turnover like a larger group can because the group takes on the personality of the members.

At the other extreme is a symphony orchestra. You may know the name of the conductor or even the concert master. But I can guarantee you won't know the name of the third trumpet player if you don't have a program. A symphony orchestra may have anywhere from 25 to 35 percent turnover from one season to the next. They could play the same program 2 years apart and the music will sound the same given the same conductor.

My point being, the music is written and the musician plays it. If the musician is any good you should enjoy it either way. The musician playing it should make no difference.

[HelmutVII]

Here is an example of what I am talking about. The drumming, base line, keyboard and guitar solo were spot on. I think the brass section from Tower of Power did the background brass. They were spot on too. The lead singer jean-michel Byron was meh. He had a mush mouth. On top of that he had an over inflated opinion of himself and they ran his butt off. That's right they ran off the lead singer. Why,. Because they knew they could get another one. This was in 1990.

https://youtu.be/1356oa_qcc8

[fanof71]

Brass? Waiting for this thread to make a move to a fall POA Band Thread....

[MelRock]

My point being, the music is written and the musician plays it. If the musician is any good you should enjoy it either way. The musician playing it should make no difference.

This is true for a $25 ticket but not so for a $75-100 ticket.

[MelRock]

Let's fight! LOL! Look at the credits on many, many albums of other bands from the late 1970s. You will find that the members of Toto, Steve Lukather, David Paiche, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Porcaro were studio musicians and played on the albums.

Albums by Boz Scaggs, Steely Dan, Paul Simon, the Bee Gees, Seals and Crofts and literally thousands of other songs.

Jeff Porcaro was a master drummer. Lukather played rhythm guitar on Michael Jackson's hit, Beat It. Eddie Van Halen played lead. Bobby Kimball's voice was incredible.

So, overrated? Mel. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

I believe you are proving my point. All great musicians but not a great band. Maybe not the most overrated band. I did like their early stuff. But the song Africa has to be the worst song.

[ManAboutTown]

I believe you are proving my point. All great musicians but not a great band. Maybe not the most overrated band. I did like their early stuff. But the song Africa has to be the worst song.

You shut your mouth right now, Sir. How dare you..

[MelRock]

You shut your mouth right now, Sir. How dare you..

I knew that one would stir the pot even more. This fun.

[ManAboutTown]

I knew that one would stir the pot even more. This fun.

I actually agree with you that Toto, the band, doesn't live up to Toto the reputation. But Africa holds up. Reminds me of my childhood and now my kids sing that dang song full force. It's a banger.