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  1. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Bonus, CMD would probably finish his career here if he ends up earning the right to stay.
    We already have plenty of staff working in their LASER retirements, and mediocracy abounds.

    Can’t wait to see the basketball hire when that plays out…

    Good work 71, shows the COVID impact.

  2. #86

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    https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...ns/6412655001/

    In a renegotiated contract approved earlier this year, Napier had $2.5 million pool for 10 assistant coaches, plus a pool of at least $510,000 for football support personnel and his chief of staff, a $485,000 pool for strength and conditioning coaches, a $225,000 pool for up to 11 quality control coaches and up to $50,000 for a football academic support/player development coordinator. Athletics director Bryan Maggard said Tuesday that UL will match for Desormeaux the assistant coach, strength staff and support staff budget that Napier was afforded.


  3. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    You would have to ask both of them, that discussion did not come up. But he did say that his peers at other institutions were dealing with similar concerns of lost revenue. The greatest difference as others have discussed is student athletic fees. We have some auxiliary fees, but a large percentage of those go towards facilities.

    As to your opinion that they should resign if they can't get it done with the current budget, I would remind you that Billy Napier didn't grow his organization and support to staff to it's largest in program history on peanut butter and popcorn. A lot of that growth was covered by RCAF donations and other creative methods. Once Covid hit, the money was gone and some of it never came back. That also applies to season tickets sales when it comes to corporate or company tickets that no longer exist and or those that reduced their staffs by large numbers. That's the reality of our situation.
    Everybody needs to read this and internalize it.

    Then, remember that 11 starters from the SBC Champ game plus Lacy, M. Johnson and E. Bailey are not here. On top of that, most of the coaches from that game are gone as well.

    I repeat, a winning season would be success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    So if there is nothing there, offering Napier $3.2 was a non-starter, even if he wanted to stay.

    We would have let him walk because we would have expected him to go back to $750,000.

    Come on Vic, if nothing is there, nothing is there.

    You "think" and you "believe."
    I can usually follow your thoughts but you got me here. I have no clue what you are saying or trying to say here.

  5. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    Pulled from Sportico website

    LOUISIANA PROFIT/LOSS BY YEAR
    2020-2021: -$862,391
    2019-2020: -$5,980,700
    2018-2019: -$4,559,770
    2017-2018: +$82,086
    So riddle me this, anyone...

    2017-2018, balanced budget
    2018-2019, lose $4.5mln, why? Increased spending on football staff with Napier coming in? That seems like too big a number to be just that.
    2019-2020, lose $6 mln, why? Everything from previous year, plus we lose spring sports attendance with covid?
    2020-2021, somehow we reign it in and lose less than $1mln, despite that being the year that covid affected football the most. How did that happen?

    It's pretty clear to me that we made some strategic expenditures in 2018-2020, but then got it back relatively balanced (- covid related attendance losses) in 2020-2021.

    So where's money? I mean, isn't it right there? Someone tell me what I'm missing.

  6. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...ns/6412655001/

    In a renegotiated contract approved earlier this year, Napier had $2.5 million pool for 10 assistant coaches, plus a pool of at least $510,000 for football support personnel and his chief of staff, a $485,000 pool for strength and conditioning coaches, a $225,000 pool for up to 11 quality control coaches and up to $50,000 for a football academic support/player development coordinator. Athletics director Bryan Maggard said Tuesday that UL will match for Desormeaux the assistant coach, strength staff and support staff budget that Napier was afforded.
    His assistant pool did not change. His salary is $1.2M less and that certainly didn't go back into institutional support. In addition to that, we won't know how much was cut from the recruiting budget and travel cost until we see the state audit when it's released. But you can ask Sam Landers how much RCAF raised to supplement those losses, he can tell you since he hosted the event.

    Again, I'm not making the argument that this is entirely our problem right now. But much like the losses in organization, there have been cuts in the budget across the board for the athletic department and even on the academic side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    It has absolutely nothing to do with his true value. It just happens to be what he is paid.
    Right now, he is establishing his true value.

    Right now, he is about 6 plays away from being undefeated as a head coach.

    If he is able correct those key moments, his value will go up.

  8. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman View Post
    So riddle me this, anyone...

    2017-2018, balanced budget
    2018-2019, lose $4.5mln, why? Increased spending on football staff with Napier coming in? That seems like too big a number to be just that.
    2019-2020, lose $6 mln, why? Everything from previous year, plus we lose spring sports attendance with covid?
    2020-2021, somehow we reign it in and lose less than $1mln, despite that being the year that covid affected football the most. How did that happen?

    It's pretty clear to me that we made some strategic expenditures in 2018-2020, but then got it back relatively balanced (- covid related attendance losses) in 2020-2021.

    So where's money? I mean, isn't it right there? Someone tell me what I'm missing.
    The difference I believe will be shown in the next audit is in Institutional Support and RCAF. Technically, the state law doesn't allow our state institutions to lose money in athletics. You have to cover those loses by donations, borrowing money from auxiliary fees and the foundation. It has to be paid back at some point. It all sounds like kabuki theater, but our problem is those auxiliary fees will not be renewed. They come off the books at some point. When they do, those funds will no longer be an option to help athletics. If you want a more technical explanation, you can reach out Jerry Luke Leblanc. I doubt he will respond to you because they don't like discussing it.

  9. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    The difference I believe will be shown in the next audit is in Institutional Support and RCAF. Technically, the state law doesn't allow our state institutions to lose money in athletics. You have to cover those loses by donations, borrowing money from auxiliary fees and the foundation. It has to be paid back at some point. It all sounds like kabuki theater, but our problem is those auxiliary fees will not be renewed. They come off the books at some point. When they do, those funds will no longer be an option to help athletics. If you want a more technical explanation, you can reach out Jerry Luke Leblanc. I doubt he will respond to you because they don't like discussing it.
    If decision makers see the auxiliary fee sunset cliff approaching and we’re not seeing any effort to offset that with an RCAF membership drive, what the heck are we doing?

    Hud: People just want to be invited to something

  10. #94

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    Good idea on how to raise some cash....multiply times number of home games...

    https://appstatesports.com/auctions/...spx?category=4


  11. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTails View Post
    If decision makers see the auxiliary fee sunset cliff approaching and we’re not seeing any effort to offset that with an RCAF membership drive, what the heck are we doing?

    Hud: People just want to be invited to something
    one way or another someone is not doing something. this is not a shoulder shrug moment. at some level incompetence somewhere or laziness somewhere or just not giving a damn somewhere is costing us millions. and costing us fans. and costing us wins

  12. #96

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    I will say this now. For the money these coaches make, we, as a collective, can _____ and scream as much as we want. If my record for work projects was CMD record, I would have been fired already. More money comes more responsibility. Deal with it or get another job. Attendance needed to increase not plummet for money to be made.


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