Is UL Athletics Broke?

[CajunVic]

Not following what that means.

If you mean that by asking questions, I'm causing a process to have teeth (cogs?) rather than just be based on "beliefs", then I'll take it.

For once try to add something to the process as opposed to always subtracting. Right now, all you are doing is posting about Vic.

[Turbine]

Where is your source that such is not true? This goes both ways. Throughout this I have used what facts that are available and filled in the gaps best I could. Not sure there is another way to handle any of this.

And of course you would gravitate on my typo as opposed to the issue on the table. That is what one does when he has nothing.

First come first serve on that table ... or so I'm told. Wouldn't know myself, I don't eat there.

[HoustonCajun]

My niece attends JMU and they had a student protest last year over the athletic fees. The state legislature has gotten involved and there will be no more additional student athletic fees allowed at state institutions. Right now there is a push for the legislature to go further and reduce the percentage of student fees.

JMU must have had at least a $60M athletic budget. No more student athletic fees means JMU loses $47M of that amount. How are they going to make that up?

[Turbine]

JMU must have had at least a $60M athletic budget. No more student athletic fees means JMU loses $47M of that amount. How are they going to make that up?

As of right now it says "no more additional" .. status quo.

[LouisianaB]

In FY 2021, Louisiana spent $3,536,965 on football staff. This is only the football budget. There’s numerous people who work football that fall under the general athletic budget.

Napier: $1,137,499.92
Desormeaux: $148,020.79
Leger: $158,229.21
Juluke: $219,479.21
Sale: $275,654.64
Morgan: $135,860.62
Toney: $331,770.79
Segrest: $153,125
Looney: $39,973.33
Discher: $135,519.59
Neighbors: $81,448.11
Giuliani: $14,808.81
Burris: $41,847.83
Scott: $59,375.00
Stapleton: $37,137.69
Norrid: $51,612.33
Armstrong: $48,278.15

S&C staff: $47,222.20 (most of Hockes salary probably general budget)

Support (including troy): $330,300.99

GAs: $47,222.20

[CajunVic]

Until I found out we went from what was billed and marketed at a huge number for support football salaries of $2,000,000 to the astronomical number of $3.77 mm without any notice, fundraising or even bruhaha, I was going to say that JMU would probably not be seeking advice here.

However, with that established, everybody will want to know where we acquired our money tree, what brand it is, where it the best place to plant it and do you need just a tree or a grove . . .

[LouisianaB]

Where have you been in life. It is impossible to prove a negative. I have provided to you why I don't believe we have ever spent $3.77mm dollars on support staff. I'm not sure where anyone goes from here.

Please tell me, do you believe we ever spent more than $2,000,000 on support staff.

If so, what is the basis of your belief?

Define support staff

[CajunVic]

Define support staff

Personel directly associated with the football program (coaches, analysist, recruiters, managers . . .)

[LouisianaB]

FY 2021 I believe would include July 2020 to june 2021

[LouisianaB]

Source: a FOIA request. The guy I know is getting updated numbers.

[LouisianaB]

Did it get quiet in here all of a sudden

[BabbForHeisman]

Did it get quiet in here all of a sudden

I “believe” it did

[Turbine]

I want to know why there are pennies on the end of these numbers?

[CajunVic]

Looks like Dr. Maggard did have a money tree that nobody else knew about . . . and apparently it has grown to a point where it is no longer concealable . . . and it is now coming out into the open and in the open it is just not producing enough fruit anymore . . .

[LouisianaB]

I want to know why there are pennies on the end of these numbers?

Great question.