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  1. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Ok, let me say this for the upteenth time over the years.

    Bryan Maggard makes the football schedule. That's the only schedule he makes (although he must approve all schedules.)

    Dr. Maggard tells the coach how much money he needs in guarantees and as long as the figure is met, he's good.

    UL does not give the head coach money to buy D-1 games.

    The idea in scheduling is to have the same number of games home and away and if there are games that are at a neutral site (read: Asheville this year) that's cool, too.

    As I pointed out in a previous post, with exception of the three new eastern schools, everyone that has released a schedule has three games against non D-1 schools. That's because they all have the same issue. They aren't getting the money to buy D-1's and they're having trouble scheduling home and home opponents. (Marshall is buying two D-1's: Coppin State and Chicago State...which is the caliber you get for 50-60K)

    As CajunsMike pointed out, the schedule got hamstrung this year because Southern Miss was supposed to return last year's visit, but is now a league member. Southeastern LA was on the schedule but had to drop out when the Southland suddenly had two more schools than planned (Lamar came in a year early, UIW decided to stay instead of going to the WAC.)

    Now, I'm not using that to say the schedule would have been great, obviously that's not the case. But they are facts about this year's schedule.

    The first of what I'm sure are many meetings has been held as to how to improve basketball in the Sun Belt. The bottom line is all the schools in the league need to up their budget significantly.

    That means more money has to be raised because you can't rob Peter to pay Paul.
    ul shouldnt give coaches money for games. they should have to raise the money. like basketball raised money for the vacation games in puerto rico

  2. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Ok, let me say this for the upteenth time over the years.

    Bryan Maggard makes the football schedule. That's the only schedule he makes (although he must approve all schedules.)

    Dr. Maggard tells the coach how much money he needs in guarantees and as long as the figure is met, he's good.

    UL does not give the head coach money to buy D-1 games.

    The idea in scheduling is to have the same number of games home and away and if there are games that are at a neutral site (read: Asheville this year) that's cool, too.

    As I pointed out in a previous post, with exception of the three new eastern schools, everyone that has released a schedule has three games against non D-1 schools. That's because they all have the same issue. They aren't getting the money to buy D-1's and they're having trouble scheduling home and home opponents. (Marshall is buying two D-1's: Coppin State and Chicago State...which is the caliber you get for 50-60K)

    As CajunsMike pointed out, the schedule got hamstrung this year because Southern Miss was supposed to return last year's visit, but is now a league member. Southeastern LA was on the schedule but had to drop out when the Southland suddenly had two more schools than planned (Lamar came in a year early, UIW decided to stay instead of going to the WAC.)

    Now, I'm not using that to say the schedule would have been great, obviously that's not the case. But they are facts about this year's schedule.

    The first of what I'm sure are many meetings has been held as to how to improve basketball in the Sun Belt. The bottom line is all the schools in the league need to up their budget significantly.

    That means more money has to be raised because you can't rob Peter to pay Paul.
    Did Maggard not tell you either on a podcast or on your radio show that he would be in charge of basketball scheduling? Maybe I am misremembering and if I’m wrong I apologize.

  3. #27

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    Here is a list of some non conference home games that Sun Belt schools will attract this season:

    Marshall:
    -Akron
    -Ohio
    -Toledo

    App State:
    -Campbell
    -Kennesaw State
    -Furman
    -Southeastern La

    Coastal Carolina:
    -College of Charleston
    -UNC Wilmington

    South Alabama:
    -ALABAMA

    ODU:
    -William and Mary
    -East Carolina
    -George Mason
    -Norfolk State (same city)

    Arkansas State:
    -UT-Martin
    -Southeast Missouri State

    Southern Miss:
    -Montana
    -Lamar

    Georgia Southern:
    -Florida Gulf Coast U
    -Wofford
    -Campbell

    Georgia State:
    -Belmont
    -Eastern Kentucky
    -Mercer
    -Georgia Tech (same city)
    -Rhode Island

    ULM:
    -Sam Houston State
    -Jacksonville

    UL:
    -Louisiana Tech
    -Samford

    The reason why I am posting this is that I see teams on here that are going to other schools in our conference but for some reason are not coming here. Plus, some of these schools have recently been to the NCAA tournament. How is it that ULM got Sam Houston to go drive the extra three hours to come to Monroe but won't come to a school where their former coach coaches? How is it that we have to travel to Philadelphia to play Drake, but can't agree to a home-and-home? But Garry can get Houston, Texas Tech, LSU, Auburn, and Mississippi State to come play at the Cajundome? Regardless of how many non D1's schools that are being brought in, the difference between us and those other Sun Belt schools is that they are making up for it with decent non conference competition at home, and we are not. If people want to blame Maggard for not bringing in that level of competition, that's one thing. But why did he take over scheduling in the first place?


  4. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Here is a list of some non conference home games that Sun Belt schools will attract this season:

    Marshall:
    -Akron
    -Ohio
    -Toledo

    App State:
    -Campbell
    -Kennesaw State
    -Furman
    -Southeastern La

    Coastal Carolina:
    -College of Charleston
    -UNC Wilmington

    South Alabama:
    -ALABAMA

    ODU:
    -William and Mary
    -East Carolina
    -George Mason
    -Norfolk State (same city)

    Arkansas State:
    -UT-Martin
    -Southeast Missouri State

    Southern Miss:
    -Montana
    -Lamar

    Georgia Southern:
    -Florida Gulf Coast U
    -Wofford
    -Campbell

    Georgia State:
    -Belmont
    -Eastern Kentucky
    -Mercer
    -Georgia Tech (same city)
    -Rhode Island

    ULM:
    -Sam Houston State
    -Jacksonville

    UL:
    -Louisiana Tech
    -Samford

    The reason why I am posting this is that I see teams on here that are going to other schools in our conference but for some reason are not coming here. Plus, some of these schools have recently been to the NCAA tournament. How is it that ULM got Sam Houston to go drive the extra three hours to come to Monroe but won't come to a school where their former coach coaches? How is it that we have to travel to Philadelphia to play Drake, but can't agree to a home-and-home? But Garry can get Houston, Texas Tech, LSU, Auburn, and Mississippi State to come play at the Cajundome? Regardless of how many non D1's schools that are being brought in, the difference between us and those other Sun Belt schools is that they are making up for it with decent non conference competition at home, and we are not. If people want to blame Maggard for not bringing in that level of competition, that's one thing. But why did he take over scheduling in the first place?
    You are a smart person. This is not a smart post, however.

    It's normal when a coach first leaves that he doesn't want to play the team he left. See Matt Deggs in his first year. That time is long past, but it's Coach Wooten that doesn't want to play. Bob's been trying for several years now.

    Drake is in freaking Iowa, not Philadelphia. And, it's already been pointed out that game was added to pay for the Puerto Rico trip as a guarantee game. It was between Drake and Mizzou. The dates worked out for Drake.

    Don't compare scheduling of the two sports. Apples to bricks.

    The other schools playing teams at home makes you drool. But is a simple geography thing. The three MAC schools are a bus trip for Marshall, who is on the Ohio border. That's like UNO and McNeese coming here. It happens to be the closest conference. The same can be said for everyone else's non conference schedule. Geography, Geography, Geography.

    We have Louisiana Tech. The only teams on any of these schedules that are more appealing are Alabama (Auburn also agreed to go to USA a year or two ago) and Georgia Tech (who is opening GSU's new arena. Georgia opened ours.

    I would think our relationship with LSU would improve now that Little Willy is gone. Time will tell. Perhaps we can get them back on the schedule in the near future.

    And, to reiterate, Dr. Maggard did not take over basketball scheduling.

    And make no mistake. I'm no more happy about the schedule than you are. But my point is, everyone in the league is pretty much in the same boat.

  5. #29

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    I’ve set my bar so low. I want to see D-1 basketball teams. I’m fine with home and homes with Southland, SWAC, etc. schools. Apparently that is some astronomically high bar that can never be reached and anyone who thinks otherwise is a “Marlin minion.” This university is a straight up bummer to support at times.


  6. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    You are a smart person. This is not a smart post, however.

    It's normal when a coach first leaves that he doesn't want to play the team he left. See Matt Deggs in his first year. That time is long past, but it's Coach Wooten that doesn't want to play. Bob's been trying for several years now.

    Drake is in freaking Iowa, not Philadelphia. And, it's already been pointed out that game was added to pay for the Puerto Rico trip as a guarantee game. It was between Drake and Mizzou. The dates worked out for Drake.

    Don't compare scheduling of the two sports. Apples to bricks.

    The other schools playing teams at home makes you drool. But is a simple geography thing. The three MAC schools are a bus trip for Marshall, who is on the Ohio border. That's like UNO and McNeese coming here. It happens to be the closest conference. The same can be said for everyone else's non conference schedule. Geography, Geography, Geography.

    We have Louisiana Tech. The only teams on any of these schedules that are more appealing are Alabama (Auburn also agreed to go to USA a year or two ago) and Georgia Tech (who is opening GSU's new arena. Georgia opened ours.

    I would think our relationship with LSU would improve now that Little Willy is gone. Time will tell. Perhaps we can get them back on the schedule in the near future.

    And, to reiterate, Dr. Maggard did not take over basketball scheduling.
    My mistake on Drake. I got them confused with Drexel. BTW, it's Hooten, not Wooten (sorry, I had to after the Drake correction hehe!).

    So, I had a feeling "geography" would be the response, and it honestly it's a very valid one. So I get that. But we are also within seven hours from schools like SFA, Houston, Rice, TCU, Baylor, UTSA, and Memphis. FGCU is a farther drive to Ga Southern, and Jacksonville is a longer drive to Monroe as well as Rhode Island to Georgia State. As for quality, I'd have to respectfully disagree that Tech is more attractive than just Alabama and Georgia Tech. I would take FGCU, Mercer, George Mason, and College of Charleston tomorrow. They've all been the tournament more recently than Louisiana Tech.

    There is no reason after all of these years that we can't attract better schools to play here. I'm not saying to get Duke or North Carolina to come to the Cajundome, but if South Alabama can attract Auburn and Alabama even if they are close; we should be able to bring in an SFA or Rice. Also, if Sam Houston doesn't want to play us, it would be interesting to know why.

  7. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    My mistake on Drake. I got them confused with Drexel. BTW, it's Hooten, not Wooten (sorry, I had to after the Drake correction hehe!).

    So, I had a feeling "geography" would be the response, and it honestly it's a very valid one. So I get that. But we are also within seven hours from schools like SFA, Houston, Rice, TCU, Baylor, UTSA, and Memphis. FGCU is a farther drive to Ga Southern, and Jacksonville is a longer drive to Monroe as well as Rhode Island to Georgia State. As for quality, I'd have to respectfully disagree that Tech is more attractive than just Alabama and Georgia Tech. I would take FGCU, Mercer, George Mason, and College of Charleston tomorrow. They've all been the tournament more recently than Louisiana Tech.

    There is no reason after all of these years that we can't attract better schools to play here. I'm not saying to get Duke or North Carolina to come to the Cajundome, but if South Alabama can attract Auburn and Alabama even if they are close; we should be able to bring in an SFA or Rice. Also, if Sam Houston doesn't want to play us, it would be interesting to know why.
    We played Houston last year. They aren't coming here.
    We played Baylor the year they won the National Championship. They aren't coming here.
    We played TCU a few years ago. They aren't coming here.
    Memphis isn't coming here (though I wouldn't mind playing them)

    We should be playing Rice. And, I think UTSA would be a great choice. Stephen F. is kinda "meh" because of their location in a home and home, but I'd play em.

    But in order to play, both schools have to agree. If you wonder why they won't agree, write and ask them.

    And, I"ll stand by what I said about Tech, especially because of geography. Lets play Mercer? You think our fan base even knows who they are or where they're located? I don't

  8. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    We played Houston last year. They aren't coming here.
    We played Baylor the year they won the National Championship. They aren't coming here.
    We played TCU a few years ago. They aren't coming here.
    Memphis isn't coming here (though I wouldn't mind playing them)

    We should be playing Rice. And, I think UTSA would be a great choice. Stephen F. is kinda "meh" because of their location in a home and home, but I'd play em.

    But in order to play, both schools have to agree. If you wonder why they won't agree, write and ask them.

    And, I"ll stand by what I said about Tech, especially because of geography. Lets play Mercer? You think our fan base even knows who they are or where they're located? I don't
    mercer beat DUKE in the tournament not that long ago. we would be so honored.

    youre not answering the questions. not coming here is not an answer. WHYYYYYY are they not on the home schedule? tcu some basketball power? houston is too good for lafayette? they were a peer institution for decades. sfa is a recent round of 32 team. too good for lafayette though i guess. coach hooten has no reason not to play bob other than a personal issue but that is what the ad is for. who i assume bob would have a relationship with. but he doesnt. common trend

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    We played Houston last year. They aren't coming here.
    We played Baylor the year they won the National Championship. They aren't coming here.
    We played TCU a few years ago. They aren't coming here.
    Memphis isn't coming here (though I wouldn't mind playing them)

    We should be playing Rice. And, I think UTSA would be a great choice. Stephen F. is kinda "meh" because of their location in a home and home, but I'd play em.

    But in order to play, both schools have to agree. If you wonder why they won't agree, write and ask them.

    And, I"ll stand by what I said about Tech, especially because of geography. Lets play Mercer? You think our fan base even knows who they are or where they're located? I don't
    But why wouldn't Houston or TCU come here? Houston came here in 2013. We agree on Rice, UTSA, and SFA. So why aren't they on the schedule?

    Those are the points I'm making. We both see teams that would be solid for home-and-home series, yet it seems like it has been forever since they have been on the schedule.

    I would still take Mercer and FGCU. Mercer beat Duke a few years back in the NCAA Tournament.

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    "They aren't coming here" is an indictment not an excuse.

    If Louisiana had a strong enough schedule (historically) they would all be coming here.


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    I encourage everyone to go back and listen to Jay's podcast (Ragin Cajuns Connection) from Nov 2021 titled Ragin Cajuns AD Bryan Maggard--fast forward to the 11 minute mark--Bryan indicates he is involved in basketball scheduling while he wasn't involved at Missouri--He basically outlines his philosophy which shows he is ok with scheduling these easy games.

    https://forumeus.com/showthread.php/...tball+schedule


  12. #36

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    Marlin has zero connections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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