Des Makes Big Change To August Camp

[ManAboutTown]

Looking at Jay's post, I don't see where the hair on his nuts got singed, at least not by the term old man. He might have had his feelings hurt by the truthfulness of my message, but the old man thing was as much a sign of respect as anything. But since your butt seems to be hurt so badly for him, may I suggest that the senior members of the board ( AKA also known as the shady rest home _____ masters) make up their own tora by which one is so severely offended for their fellow poster, by their fellow poster for describing them in an accurate manner. Or has Jay visited the fountain of Benjamin Buttons?

Say what you want about Kyle, agree or disagree, whatever. The posts are never boring. Lol.

[ManAboutTown]

Actually what you are failing to understand is that the way Des is doing it was tried by many coaches when the athletics dorms were first abolished. It didn’t work. To many outside distractions in camp. That’s when the vast majority started bringing them together on campus for fall camp. So it is not that Des is a pioneer blazing new trails here he is actually going backwards and reverting back to ways that others found didn’t work very well. I hope he gets better results.

Now Des is going backwards…

[JayWalker]

I think this will be my final comment on this subject.

1. Calling me "old man" is not offensive to me. It's accurate...and perhaps if I didn't know the one who said it, perhaps it bothers me more. But BK and I have been agreeing, disagreeing and sometimes getting downright PO'd at each other since back when I wasn't old. I wouldn't change it. He and I are good.

2. But I do part company with BK with his comments about my comments. Sure, it's OK to question things. But when the explanation is given multiple times, there comes a time to put it to rest. We are WAY past that point.

3. I did a 20 minute conversation with Chris Smith and Andre Jones at SBC media day. One of the questions I asked was "What's different?" You might be interested in their answers.

4. The day before the players reported, I did an hour, one on one, with CMD. The question about where players stay during training camp was answered in the first five minutes of the interview. We also covered many other topics. Evidently the only person who listened to either interview was Cajuns Mike, because he's the only one who made a comment about it. No, I'm not butt hurt about it. But you guys demand information and _____ when you don't get it.
It's there. A link was provided right here on Ragin' Pagin.

[JMV JustMyView]

I think this will be my final comment on this subject.

1. Calling me "old man" is not offensive to me. It's accurate...and perhaps if I didn't know the one who said it, perhaps it bothers me more. But BK and I have been agreeing, disagreeing and sometimes getting downright PO'd at each other since back when I wasn't old. I wouldn't change it. He and I are good.

2. But I do part company with BK with his comments about my comments. Sure, it's OK to question things. But when the explanation is given multiple times, there comes a time to put it to rest. We are WAY past that point.

3. I did a 20 minute conversation with Chris Smith and Andre Jones at SBC media day. One of the questions I asked was "What's different?" You might be interested in their answers.

4. The day before the players reported, I did an hour, one on one, with CMD. The question about where players stay during training camp was answered in the first five minutes of the interview. We also covered many other topics. Evidently the only person who listened to either interview was Cajuns Mike, because he's the only one who made a comment about it. No, I'm not butt hurt about it. But you guys demand information and _____ when you don't get it.
It's there. A link was provided right here on Ragin' Pagin.

I listened to both and enjoyed it. I just didn't feel the need to tell everyone to go listen since you actually posted the links. I feel good about this team after hearing both interviews.

[John Cocktolstoy]

Source?

As some one who drives around 40k miles annually in an outside sales territory I spend a lot of time behind a wind shield. One thing I have done is listen to Sirius XM’s college sports stations Football Camp Tour every august since 2012. They interview players and coaches. If you listen as much as I have you get a very good feel for how the majority of college camps are being run. If you have never heard the show you would have no clue as to the kind of knowledge that one could gain from listening to it for the last 10 years. Over the years it has had host like Eddie Georg, Houston Nut, Rick Neuheisel, Gino Torretta, Randy Cross, Gil Brandt, Jack Arute, Mark Packer, and Chris Childers. The players give every little detail on their camps. You should check it out some day.

https://investor.siriusxm.com/news-e...tball-training

[John Cocktolstoy]

I think this will be my final comment on this subject.

1. Calling me "old man" is not offensive to me. It's accurate...and perhaps if I didn't know the one who said it, perhaps it bothers me more. But BK and I have been agreeing, disagreeing and sometimes getting downright PO'd at each other since back when I wasn't old. I wouldn't change it. He and I are good.

2. But I do part company with BK with his comments about my comments. Sure, it's OK to question things. But when the explanation is given multiple times, there comes a time to put it to rest. We are WAY past that point.

3. I did a 20 minute conversation with Chris Smith and Andre Jones at SBC media day. One of the questions I asked was "What's different?" You might be interested in their answers.

4. The day before the players reported, I did an hour, one on one, with CMD. The question about where players stay during training camp was answered in the first five minutes of the interview. We also covered many other topics. Evidently the only person who listened to either interview was Cajuns Mike, because he's the only one who made a comment about it. No, I'm not butt hurt about it. But you guys demand information and _____ when you don't get it.
It's there. A link was provided right here on Ragin' Pagin.

Thanks Mr. Walker I will listen to the Des interview later today as I stir my gravy pot.

[KajunKrazy]

One of the things Mentioned in the interview with Jay was a the impact of a normal sleep cycle on mental health. Staying in your own bed in a tough situation can help deal with the stress. Training camp is a stressful situation by nature. Gerald Broussard was asked about the decision on Billy RyckmAn’s show this morning. Said he hated having to move into the dorms while coaching. Also said that if the season turns out somewhat disappointing, some May look back at this move and say I told you so. One other point made in the podcast should provide a little relief. THat is curfews and that bed check will still be in effect. During camp, you are too busy and too tired for any distractions. Once again I encourage folks to listen to Jay’s podcast interview with Coach.

I could see hating it as a coach. I ran into a former UL and New England Patriot DE in Red's the other day and asked his opinion on this subject. He said as player "I want to be in the dorm. I like the structure everything is about football it is all you have to focus on with no outside distractions." He said he could see the potential of major distractions this way.

[KajunKrazy]

Major part of his training camp . . . Says who?

All successful football coaches are doing . . . Source?

He must explain . . . Why give his secret and thought process to others, let them learn on their own.

I don't know if the move is right are wrong, good or bad, will work or not. I am not here to judge that. But one thing I do know for certain is that when Hud and Naiper were here this program was ran as close to a P5 program as the UL football program has ever been run and that seemed to work well. This just has the feel of going back to running like an average G5 program. Just my opinion. Not questioning the coach.

It also my OPINION that this would never be stated publicly but, I think this is a financial decision. With covid year low attendance and you already paying cost of living stipend why pay extra on room and board for a couple of weeks?

[Bandwagon King]

I think this will be my final comment on this subject.

1. Calling me "old man" is not offensive to me. It's accurate...and perhaps if I didn't know the one who said it, perhaps it bothers me more. But BK and I have been agreeing, disagreeing and sometimes getting downright PO'd at each other since back when I wasn't old. I wouldn't change it. He and I are good.

2. But I do part company with BK with his comments about my comments. Sure, it's OK to question things. But when the explanation is given multiple times, there comes a time to put it to rest. We are WAY past that point.

3. I did a 20 minute conversation with Chris Smith and Andre Jones at SBC media day. One of the questions I asked was "What's different?" You might be interested in their answers.

4. The day before the players reported, I did an hour, one on one, with CMD. The question about where players stay during training camp was answered in the first five minutes of the interview. We also covered many other topics. Evidently the only person who listened to either interview was Cajuns Mike, because he's the only one who made a comment about it. No, I'm not butt hurt about it. But you guys demand information and _____ when you don't get it.
It's there. A link was provided right here on Ragin' Pagin.

And this fan tails right in with my last _____ point with you on the coverage of the team. I just started listening to your podcast with Des. and right out of the gate the two of you talked extensively about why he made the decision he did. And that explained everything to me I needed to know. And now, now that I've heard you guys address the issue extensively, while I can still see potential fallbacks, or pot holes, it makes it so, so , SO much easier to understand coach's thinking & buy into his process.

Someone once told me that two people both equally informed, seldom disagree. That is true to some extent. But two people who are completely properly informed almost never disagree. Thanks for posting your podcast. Now the question is how do we keep the news events, (which an hour long interview with the coach is a pretty big news event) how do we keep those things in a place where they can be easily extracted? Because like you, now I understand where Des is coming from.

[Cantstandza]

I don't know if the move is right are wrong, good or bad, will work or not. I am not here to judge that. But one thing I do know for certain is that when Hud and Naiper where here this program was ran as close to a P5 program as the UL football program has ever been run and that seemed to work well. This just has the feel of going back to running like an average G5 program. Just my opinion. Not questioning the coach.

It also my OPINION that this would never be stated publicly but, I think this is a financial decision. With covid year low attendance and you already paying cost of living stipend why pay extra on room and board for a couple of weeks?

I'm not understanding how it would cost UL more money to house the kids in dorms they already own. Help me understand this.

[John Cocktolstoy]

Now Des is going backwards…

OK what do you want to call it if not backwards. HUD and Napier came in and ran camp much like the SEC schools they had previously worked for. In Des’ first year he made changes to camp that look more like camps did under Bustle. You tell me the word for that?

[KajunKrazy]

I'm not understanding how it would cost UL more money to house the kids in dorms they already own. Help me understand this.

Many student athletes today live off campus. If the athletic department wanted to put the entire team in a dorm for 2 weeks during camp they would have to pay the housing department for access to those dorm rooms. Athletics don't just use those for free.

When Hud was here he had the transit department pick the team up at the dorms and bring them to the complex and then back to the dorm. That was too was not a free service by the transit department.