SBC Media Deal

[cajun_lannister]

If we invested adequate monies in our own streaming media production and created our own Bowl game or garnered our own Tie-in to a current Bowl, Independence would work very, very well for us.

There are 2 independent public schools in the country and they are literally the worst 2 FBS football teams in the country

[BabbForHeisman]

They haven't danced since 1991.

Oh snap

[Turbine]

How? Please provide some support for this assertion

Schools are already paying $3 million for guarantee games.

When Super Conference TV money rolls in $4 million appearance fees will be the norm for any school that plays a tough schedule.

[Turbine]

There are 2 independent public schools in the country and they are literally the worst 2 FBS football teams in the country

Those 2 are run on a Dire Straights model, not an achievement model.

They are poorly located, have no recruiting base, and zero cross traffic.

[Cajunsmike]

Gill is set to announce the SBC deal with ESPN next week at media day. Most are projecting it to be above 2 mill per school

Keep this in mind when home attendance is not what we would like. The ESPN money more than makes up for attendance decline due to people being able to watch at home. Also, this is why we must play weeknight games. Also why ESPN price for consumers has almost doubled in past year

[BabbForHeisman]

Keep this in mind when home attendance is not what we would like. The ESPN money more than makes up for attendance decline due to people being able to watch at home. Also, this is why we must play weeknight games. Also why ESPN price for consumers has almost doubled in past year

Not sure I agree with the math of that.

Let’s say we achieve max success and put 30K in the stadium every game. At an average price of…what?…$50/ticket?

30K people x $50/ticket x 6 games/year = $9 million

That’s ticket price only, not concessions. So the real number is more. But for the purposes of discussion, let’s use the $9 million. So if instead we average 15K, that revenue drops to $4.5 million.

$2 million from ESPN doesn’t make up for that. It helps, but it doesn’t cover it at all.

[anhil8tor]

Does this help us move forward with the stadium at all?

[Cajunsmike]

Not sure I agree with the math of that.

Let’s say we achieve max success and put 30K in the stadium every game. At an average price of…what?…$50/ticket?

30K people x $50/ticket x 6 games/year = $9 million

That’s ticket price only, not concessions. So the real number is more. But for the purposes of discussion, let’s use the $9 million. So if instead we average 15K, that revenue drops to $4.5 million.

$2 million from ESPN doesn’t make up for that. It helps, but it doesn’t cover it at all.

Our average ticket price is more like 30 bucks and perhaps less. Students would take up about 6000 tickets as well when we are having success. If we could sell 20000 tickets at 30 bucks we would get 3.6 million for a season. Now could we get there without ESPN plus allowing people to watch at home, I don't know. However, if we sell 15000 tickets per game at 30 bucks it is 2.7 million. Add the 2 million from TV and you are ahead of not having the contract. Ideally we increase attendance and still get TV money. I will say the 500 grand we used to get was not enough to cover the attendance loss. Going to 2 million is great news. However the contract is for all conference schools. Schools like Georgia State, Texas State, and ULM definitely come out ahead with TV money. Interesting discussion but moot as the TV deal is done and will not change for years to come. It does help keep out of town fans connected. Ideally those folks would become low level RCAF contributors.

[LouisianaB]

Schools are already paying $3 million for guarantee games.

When Super Conference TV money rolls in $4 million appearance fees will be the norm for any school that plays a tough schedule.

When super conferences roll around they won’t be playing guarantee games. 20-24 team conferences will produce a full schedule

And playing six guarantee games would be suicidal.

Still trying to understand if obsession with independence is trolling or legit.

[BabbForHeisman]

Our average ticket price is more like 30 bucks and perhaps less. Students would take up about 6000 tickets as well when we are having success. If we could sell 20000 tickets at 30 bucks we would get 3.6 million for a season. Now could we get there without ESPN plus allowing people to watch at home, I don't know. However, if we sell 15000 tickets per game at 30 bucks it is 2.7 million. Add the 2 million from TV and you are ahead of not having the contract. Ideally we increase attendance and still get TV money. I will say the 500 grand we used to get was not enough to cover the attendance loss. Going to 2 million is great news. However the contract is for all conference schools. Schools like Georgia State, Texas State, and ULM definitely come out ahead with TV money. Interesting discussion but moot as the TV deal is done and will not change for years to come. It does help keep out of town fans connected. Ideally those folks would become low level RCAF contributors.

Yep, all depends on what assumptions you make about how many people don’t show up.

Doesn’t matter in the end, because even if we shut off the ESPN feed tomorrow, it’s not like attendance is going to change in a significant way.

[Cajunsmike]

Yep, all depends on what assumptions you make about how many people don’t show up.

Doesn’t matter in the end, because even if we shut off the ESPN feed tomorrow, it’s not like attendance is going to change in a significant way.

If that happened you would lose support from many out of town fans. Now you may get some folks from Houston, New Orleans. And north Louisiana coming to more games. Not enough to offset the TV revenue loss in my opinion. Overall, the original poster is correct in that the increase in revenue is great news for us.

[Turbine]

When super conferences roll around they won’t be playing guarantee games. 20-24 team conferences will produce a full schedule.

Full Super Conference scheduling is their achilles heel. The P5 learned this decades ago.

As soon as the Super Conferences realize that their image is taking a disasterous hit because half their members are sub .500 they will resort to what they are doing now. Namely trying to pad their overall record with out of SC scheduling.