Conference realignment again????

[CajunEXPRESS]

Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

You brought up Hot Rod Williams, the guy who single handedly closed the program down instead of acknowledging his gambling issues. Simply acted like lt never happened. That’s the Tulane I know.

Finally about the current Tulane football fortunes. It’s riding on one man that’s not young and has been very successful everywhere he’s been, SHSU, GS, and Tulane. Before this guy they wanted Hudspeth who brought good and bad.

[Big Buds]

Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

[RaginDave]

Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

That is correct, but are we the bastion of NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament appearances. I get it, we have been to the tournament more times recently then they have, but man come on no one is going to look at our NCAA history vs Tulane's and say we are heads and shoulders above Tulane.

[Big Buds]

That is correct, but are we the bastion of NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament appearances. I get it, we have been to the tournament more times recently then they have, but man come on no one is going to look at our NCAA history vs Tulane's and say we are heads and shoulders above Tulane.

I’m not sure how else one would compare mid-major programs. We’ve literally been to multiple NCAA/NIT to their zero. But ok.

[R1Letterman]

Does that include the tuition costs of its scholarship athletes? That is where we lag behind on many budget comparisons. What does Tulane actually spend on its sports teams compared to what we spend on our sports teams?

And why is spending more rewarded regardless of wins and losses? Also every p5 budget amount includes monies that they get just from being in p5 conf that should also be removed for apples to apples comparison

[CajunNation]

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

[RaginDave]

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

Yes, that was my point to BB. Had we been a consistent NCAA tournament team and/or a regular in the Sweet 16 that would be one thing. But I think if you reach out to anyone and ask who has a better basketball program UL or Tulane, the consensus would be there is not much difference. Only a handful of mid majors are worth it for most of the big conferences when it comes to basketball, those are teams like Gonzaga, Memphis, Cincinatti and the likes ETC. The difference to most people between Tulane and UL in basketball is minimal.

[ZoomZoom]

Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

Neither has the mutts.

[R1Letterman]

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

Well they cheated too

[cwl1951]

You brought up Hot Rod Williams, the guy who single handedly closed the program down instead of acknowledging his gambling issues. Simply acted like lt never happened. That’s the Tulane I know.

Finally about the current Tulane football fortunes. It’s riding on one man that’s not young and has been very successful everywhere he’s been, SHSU, GS, and Tulane. Before this guy they wanted Hudspeth who brought good and bad.

AND….athletes, especially football, are reaping benefits from Tulane’s “FEAR THE WAVE” NIL COLLECTIVE raising funds large and small from alumni and businesses.
Alumni are asked to contribute monthly whatever they can afford. Football is being emphasized because of their recent success.

Many universities have NIL Collectives. UL should have one in place soon….stay tuned.

[Turbine]

Their athletic budget is currently around $50 Million these days, though.

Tuition boosts their total.

[BabbForHeisman]

Tuition boosts their total.

I’d actually like to see a non-tuition breakdown of Sunbelt and other peer schools. Would definitely be interesting.