Fan Base, Greeks, Hazing

[fanof71]

You obviously have no clue. Everything done in a pledge ship is done for a reason and is designed to bring your pledge class closer together as a group. Outside looking in you don’t understand. Inside looking out you understand the meaning of it all. It’s not at all about “senselessly demeaning” anyone. It’s about building a bond of brotherhood.

Brotherhood? I guess, especially if you pay your monthly dues...and screw female goats (that's an LSU thing) but I digress...I was part of a long time, dorm started, intramural all and every sport group...45 years later we are still bonded, but not in that frat boy way...GDI baby

[CajunMarineBBK]

I won't comment on this case, because I don't have the information to have an informed opinion. Hazing isn't allowed in the military either, but my son-in-law was just promoted this weekend after drills for the Marine Reserves and he isn't walking to well today.

T thats not hazing he just got pinned. Good old E-4

[fanof71]

Honestly, had to double check because I wasn’t sure.

Probably the greatest and the most subtle potential derailing of a thread.

Irreverently nuanced references like this make me giggle with joy.

Thank you for an early morning chuckle that my wife is shaking her head about.

Anytime Bruh...

[raginbeef]

You obviously have no clue. Everything done in a pledge ship is done for a reason and is designed to bring your pledge class closer together as a group. Outside looking in you don’t understand. Inside looking out you understand the meaning of it all. It’s not at all about “senselessly demeaning” anyone. It’s about building a bond of brotherhood.

Yeah, having someone spit on you, hit you, not let you sleep for days, and force you to drink until you throw up or pass out really evokes the spirit of brotherly love for me.

I had a friend in another fraternity at UL. They made their class clean up their entire tailgate area after a football game (no problem with that at all). Then the “brothers” rounded up all the trash, brought it back to the house, dumped it in the middle of the chapter room, and made the pledges pick it all up again while they threw stuff at them and insulted them. If that’s how you would treat your brother, I’d hate to be in your family. That’s not love. That’s not respect. It doesn’t teach any lessons, other than how to be an A-hole to the next class.

IMO, a fraternity should build vertical unity between all members, not just those of individual classes. Hazing will create very strong horizontal unity between classmates because they went through such intense experiences and had to stick together. But it doesn’t create a bond with the incumbent members. If anything, it creates hatred and resentment. It is much more difficult to create vertical unity. You have to recruit a certain type of person and establish a set of shared values and ideals. Build trust through respect over time. Show them that they are valued members of the group and work together towards a common goal. Like I said, more difficult, but ultimately more rewarding. Again, just my opinion

[fanof71]

Does Tapa nu Keg count as a frat? Maybe I Felt a Thi? I know it always was a sweet party beating Sigma Nu...

[moorecajun]

Brotherhood? I guess, especially if you pay your monthly dues...and screw female goats (that's an LSU thing) but I digress...I was part of a long time, dorm started, intramural all and every sport group...45 years later we are still bonded, but not in that frat boy way...GDI baby

If I recall Western Kentucky fellas had an inkling for the goat as well!

[Big Poppa]

Yeah, having someone spit on you, hit you, not let you sleep for days, and force you to drink until you throw up or pass out really evokes the spirit of brotherly love for me.

I had a friend in another fraternity at UL. They made their class clean up their entire tailgate area after a football game (no problem with that at all). Then the “brothers” rounded up all the trash, brought it back to the house, dumped it in the middle of the chapter room, and made the pledges pick it all up again while they threw stuff at them and insulted them. If that’s how you would treat your brother, I’d hate to be in your family. That’s not love. That’s not respect. It doesn’t teach any lessons, other than how to be an A-hole to the next class.

IMO, a fraternity should build vertical unity between all members, not just those of individual classes. Hazing will create very strong horizontal unity between classmates because they went through such intense experiences and had to stick together. But it doesn’t create a bond with the incumbent members. If anything, it creates hatred and resentment. It is much more difficult to create vertical unity. You have to recruit a certain type of person and establish a set of shared values and ideals. Build trust through respect over time. Show them that they are valued members of the group and work together towards a common goal. Like I said, more difficult, but ultimately more rewarding. Again, just my opinion

Your first line that kind of stuff doesn’t happen. Anyone spit on me they will be in a fight. You might beat my @$$ but you will have been in fight.