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    One factor to consider is the downsizing of minor league baseball. After the first 15 rounds there are going to be some players who would have gone pro that will now go to school. Players will always fall through the cracks.


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    SI Article with some details, not much. All of this is very preliminary.

    https://www.si.com/college/2022/04/2...mittee-changes


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    Still looks like roster caps at 35. Just giving them the opportunity to give scholly's to all 35 players.

    The caveat is, conferences will vote on these measures... Interesting


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Maggard was privy and ahead of all of us.

    We’re a football / baseball school. Good times ahead.
    I'm unsure whey we think the larger schools with significantly more money than us being able to throw more money at a sports where we held an advantage (due to TOPS) is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wscoog View Post
    One factor to consider is the downsizing of minor league baseball. After the first 15 rounds there are going to be some players who would have gone pro that will now go to school. Players will always fall through the cracks.
    This is very true. MLB is subcontracting more player development to the college level. NCAA is smart to capitalize, especially in the era of professionalization of college sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    The portal will be an equalizer.

    No one wants to "not play" for a talent graveyard.
    Well it looks like there will be no need for a recruiting coordinator…everyone will just shop the portal. Its disgusting what college athletics is turning into in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Still looks like roster caps at 35. Just giving them the opportunity to give scholly's to all 35 players.

    The caveat is, conferences will vote on these measures... Interesting
    So conference “A” (most power 5’s) will have 30-35 scholarships and conference “B” will have 20 and conference “C” will have 15. Seems like a pretty screwed up situation to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Well it looks like there will be no need for a recruiting coordinator…everyone will just shop the portal. Its disgusting what college athletics is turning into in my opinion.
    This will require a recruiting coordinator now more than ever.

    The RC will have to make sure they touch base with every desirable prospect out of highschool so that when they eventually hit the portal, they'll remember you.

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    The sunbelt doesnt have 4 umpires for conference series. How many scholarships you think we will get? Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Are they proposing no limit on roster spots? Surely you can't have 60 players in the dugout or on travel parties.
    Back in the day [pre 1970 or so], schools like Texas, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State etc had as many as 200 on scholarship for football. Then the NCAA went to scholarship limits and Alabama had like 20-30 guys on minor sports scholarships playing football... hence the "Bear Bryant Rule".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Are they proposing no limit on roster spots? Surely you can't have 60 players in the dugout or on travel parties.
    The only article I read didn’t mention roster spots. I guess there could be an active roster with some inactive maneuverability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    The sunbelt doesnt have 4 umpires for conference series. How many scholarships you think we will get? Lol
    Im not convinced the four man system is superior to the three man system.
    Besides with just three game conference series, not sure if crews are always the same, you risk one guy going a couple weeks without working the plate and getting rusty.

    Bottom line is consistency is needed, whichever system you work you should work that as much as possible rather than jumping back and forth.

  13. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Still looks like roster caps at 35. Just giving them the opportunity to give scholly's to all 35 players.

    The caveat is, conferences will vote on these measures... Interesting
    What are the rules regarding having a JV team? No opinion on the proper number for roster cap, but seems the redshirts and those above the cap could be placed on a JV and still get to practice and improve, maybe even play a few games or scrimmages. Seems some smaller schools (mostly private/ academies) have JV but not larger schools, kind of seems backwards in how I thought that would play out.

    Meanwhile regardless the number that is chosen for scholarships, I think the better question is will they be “full counters”.
    This partial scholarship system seems open to abuse and a lack of auditing.

    Seems hard for me to believe with all these years of this guy getting a third of a scholarship for academics and this guy getting a fifth for 4H and an eighth bc great granpa built the railroad or whatever all these scenarios are, that all of this was ever audited by the NCAA. When someone is a first round draft pick, even if they pay full price bc their dad is elon musk, they should never have ever counted as a “walk-on”. I would really like to peruse the files of some of these c and d students on full academic scholarship or see the cancelled checks from some of these parents of partial scholarship top picks for my own eyes.

    May be moot moving forward but still….

  14. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by RougaWhite&Blue View Post
    Im not convinced the four man system is superior to the three man system.
    Besides with just three game conference series, not sure if crews are always the same, you risk one guy going a couple weeks without working the plate and getting rusty.

    Bottom line is consistency is needed, whichever system you work you should work that as much as possible rather than jumping back and forth.
    Well i can tell you this…when you cant appeal to a base umpire on a check swing bc that umpire is in the middle of the field like a coach pitch league game…that isnt good. Overall the umpiring in the conference is bad. Like BAD. Terrible way to save a few dollars

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Well i can tell you this…when you cant appeal to a base umpire on a check swing bc that umpire is in the middle of the field like a coach pitch league game…that isnt good. Overall the umpiring in the conference is bad. Like BAD. Terrible way to save a few dollars
    Yeah, if this league is too cheap for a 4th ump, I can't see them voting for 35 full scholarships.

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