RR Claps Back | Maggard Messaging | South Alabama Preview

[zephyr]

The end game is let him finish the contract and move on to next season under new leadership. He was kept simply because he is loyal and a nice guy. From what I am hearing Doc Savoie kept him because he has never embarrassed the university.

No, the question about our endgame is more complicated. Throw a scenario out where maybe he wins 22 games and finishes 2nd in conference and loses in the tournament finals again. What is the endgame Maggard has in mind. He's obviously taking a wait and see approach. Outside of just running through conference and making the NCAA, any result would be subjective in nature as to how well the season went and I'd like to know Maggard's expectation since going into this year he said we needed significant success for Marlin to keep his job. That did not happen

[zephyr]

Your question is my concern going forward and why I don't agree with the decision to keep Marlin another year. I believe it's motivated by money and not using RCAF dollars to buy a coach out. In fact that is exactly what two RCAF Board members privately stated to several others and myself a week before Dr. Maggard's press release.

If he is selling that Coach Marlin is more likely to win next season than a new coach with the returning roster of athletes and several like Brown decide to play pro basketball then the season will likely implode anyway. To me this decision is just kicking the can down the road and hoping that Coach Marlin is going to catch fire and justify their decision.

Exactly. The issue is if he does catch fire what do we do? We still have a very large sample size of inconsistency and disappointment. Which factor do we lean on to make the final decision.

[JMV JustMyView]

No, the question about our endgame is more complicated. Throw a scenario out where maybe he wins 22 games and finishes 2nd in conference and loses in the tournament finals again. What is the endgame Maggard has in mind. He's obviously taking a wait and see approach. Outside of just running through conference and making the NCAA, any result would be subjective in nature as to how well the season went and I'd like to know Maggard's expectation since going into this year he said we needed significant success for Marlin to keep his job. That did not happen

When did he say that?

[JMV JustMyView]

Exactly. The issue is if he does catch fire what do we do? We still have a very large sample size of inconsistency and disappointment. Which factor do we lean on to make the final decision.

Catching fire might get him an extension. At this point who cares the fan base is lose and the Cajundome will be empty.

[zephyr]

When did he say that?

Before last season, Cajunsmike had mentioned that this was the opinion inside the department as to what they were going to do about coach Marlin since the fanbase was getting very restless. They mentioned that he had to have measurable success like winning a conference championship or making the NCAA or possibly even make an NIT. Something that was tangible.

[zephyr]

Catching fire might get him an extension. At this point who cares the fan base is lose and the Cajundome will be empty.

I care. I grew up on Cajun basketball games. I grew up going to every game and waiting to get Kevin Brooks or Earl the Pearl Watkins sweatbands after the games in the tunnel. We've already seen that dropping attendance does not seem to worry Maggard in regards to driving a decision. That is what scares the hell out of me.

[JMV JustMyView]

Before last season, Cajunsmike had mentioned that this was the opinion inside the department as to what they were going to do about coach Marlin since the fanbase was getting very restless. They mentioned that he had to have measurable success like winning a conference championship or making the NCAA or possibly even make an NIT. Something that was tangible.

Opinions doesn't mean Maggard stated that.

[CajunT]

Catching fire might get him an extension. At this point who cares the fan base is lose and the Cajundome will be empty.

The fanbase should care, as much or more so as for baseball and softball. It's the second most viewed college sport in the nation. If some fans don't see that, they are probably more involved on the tribal mentality that permeates in some of our supporters.

[ULvictory]

The fanbase should care, as much or more so as for baseball and softball. It's the second most viewed college sport in the nation. If some fans don't see that, they are probably more involved on the tribal mentality that permeates in some of our supporters.

That’s sort of what we were insinuating on our latest episode. Some blind support regardless of standards can alienate others.

[zephyr]

Opinions doesn't mean Maggard stated that.

These weren't opinions

[JMV JustMyView]

These weren't opinions

YOU stated that CajunMike said there were opinions inside the department.

[ManAboutTown]

Everyone needs to be respectful towards others who’s opinion they disagree with. One of the problems of social media is the ease which people can insult others. It is possible that the person who calls your podcast negative really Believes that is the case. They can choose not to listen but there is no reason to insult them. You also don’t have to change as your podcast is an “opinion”. By the same token calling people who support the program a cult or a social club is disrespectful. Virtually all of those people will continue to help REGARDLESS of who the coach is.

Mike, I've enjoyed our visits. I respect your opinion and I'm happy our basketball program has fans like you.

But let's get a few things correct, for the record's sake:

1) I never called The Rebounders Club a "cult." My comment, to be exact, was about being banned from the FB fan page. I said the "cultish vibe" is weird. And it absolutely is. When I went to that page, people were crowing about "leading the SBC in attendance." WE ALL KNOW, that is horse hockey. We may sell more tickets than anyone, but we most certainly don't lead the conference in actual attendance. And the rebounder club people know that. It's intentional spreading of propaganda. If we want to debate terms like "cultish" and "propaganda", I'm happy to provide definitions for each. (I looked them up before making the comments on the pod and they were perfectly fitting for this situation.)

2) The Rebounders Club is absolutely a Social Club (we can look that one up as well). Some of the people that started the RR bashing even ADMITTED openly that they go to the games to "hang out" and don't really care about the outcomes. They don't "take it too seriously." So by their own admission, it's a club to socialize. Hence the social club references. If that offends anyone, I suggest a thicker skin. There are many other things I could say to reference that group. Social Club is fitting and harmless.

3) They píss and moan about us being too "negative." Really? How come the softball coaches, players and parents don't think we're too negative? How come coaches, players and parents of Tennis, Golf, Women's Soccer, Football, Baseball, or VBall don't think we're too "negative?" We know for a fact that folks from all of those programs listen. We get feedback from LOTS of different areas. Rebounder Club is the only group that has an issue with our "negativity." Pretty odd coincidence. We've treated every program at this school the exact same way: give an honest, educated opinion and call a spade a damn spade. 90% of the fan base (per a recent poll) want a change in basketball. I guess that has nothing to do with Bob Marlin's results and everything to do with Ragin Review's "negativity."

The fact is, even people around the administration and athletic complex know, several Rebounders Club members would rather bounce on Bob's lap than hold the coaching staff to any real expectation. That's a fact, and it's not a very well kept secret. I found it funny when one of the more vocal RC members tried to say "Y'all's podcast isn't taken seriously among RC members and the coaches." I thought to myself "Buddy, you're getting your âss conned and they don't take you seriously. Only difference is, we do it for free."