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  1. #106

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    With the addition of NIL, we will never compete for the CFP title, therefore we'll no longer get the fan support we imagined for football. We're playing for a New Year's Six bowl opportunity at best.

    Investing heavy in basketball should be the smart play of any Group of 5 conference school. With the recent updages, make Cajuns basketball the place to be. We may have to add premium seating or club level, but if ther was a good basketball product and great social atmosphere, Acadiana would get behind it.

    Remember, it was Wichita St. basketball that got the an invite to the American Athletic Conference.

    We should have the expection of a perennial Sweet 16 basketball program. A good basketball product is what the state of Louisiana needs. It's there for the taking.


  2. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    I'm just trying to figure out what the point is in continuing to support the program for those of us still hanging on if the administration has accepted this notion of basketball being an afterthought and red headed step child to football and the diamond sports. I'm not saying they have, but so many of the reasons being floated for keeping Marlin have so little do with standards and results.
    You are correct & that is exactly what they've done & will continue to do if they keep the old man yet another year. Peace out.

  3. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Yes. 1993. UNO was undefeated in conference and lost to WKU in the finals. UNO got an at large and lost in the first round. WKU went to the sweet 16. WKU got a couple of at large, South had one and Middle had one. That's all I remember.
    So you might be right about no three team bids, but you're dead wrong about why this conference has gone from a two bid league to a one bid league at the bottom of the NCAA barrel. One of the absolutely most significant reasons the SBC sucks ditch water in basketball is because of this coaching staff being mediocre & this administration fostering mediocrity since Jesse. They're so damn afraid of getting called naughty, they won't take any chance, not ANY on possibly achieving any form of sustained success.

    If the SBC is to ever again become a respectable basketball conference, then it's up to UL to lead the way. Like it, or not the SBC is just as dependent on what UL does as UL is on the SBC, maybe more. Don't even try to tell me how full of crap I am until you prove how it hasn't worked for football, baseball, as well as basketball in the past. You want the Sunbelt to be a bigger player, then make UL competitive. UL is the heart of the Sunbelt. They should have the champion in every single sport every single season, or have to reckon why.

  4. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    So you might be right about no three team bids, but you're dead wrong about why this conference has gone from a two bid league to a one bid league at the bottom of the NCAA barrel. One of the absolutely most significant reasons the SBC sucks ditch water in basketball is because of this coaching staff being mediocre & this administration fostering mediocrity since Jesse. They're so damn afraid of getting called naughty, they won't take any chance, not ANY on possibly achieving any form of sustained success.

    If the SBC is to ever again become a respectable basketball conference, then it's up to UL to lead the way. Like it, or not the SBC is just as dependent on what UL does as UL is on the SBC, maybe more. Don't even try to tell me how full of crap I am until you prove how it hasn't worked for football, baseball, as well as basketball in the past. You want the Sunbelt to be a bigger player, then make UL competitive. UL is the heart of the Sunbelt. They should have the champion in every single sport every single season, or have to reckon why.
    I fkin love you Kyle

  5. #110

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    What second most league wins since 2014 actually looks like: TX State being 17 wins behind the Cajuns from 2013/2014 - 2015/2016. TX State finishing ahead of the Cajuns in wins for 5 of the last 6 seasons including the last 4 straight.


  6. #111

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    UNO was an 8 in 93 and WKU was a 7 as an at large

    WKU was an 11 as an at large the year we beat them, an 8 in 95 and a 9 in 2002 when they had Chris Marcus and beat us in the championship


  7. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    With the addition of NIL, we will never compete for the CFP title, therefore we'll no longer get the fan support we imagined for football. We're playing for a New Year's Six bowl opportunity at best.

    Investing heavy in basketball should be the smart play of any Group of 5 conference school. With the recent updages, make Cajuns basketball the place to be. We may have to add premium seating or club level, but if ther was a good basketball product and great social atmosphere, Acadiana would get behind it.

    Remember, it was Wichita St. basketball that got the an invite to the American Athletic Conference.

    We should have the expection of a perennial Sweet 16 basketball program. A good basketball product is what the state of Louisiana needs. It's there for the taking.
    Basketball is where the NIL started years ago. Its just legal now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    So you might be right about no three team bids, but you're dead wrong about why this conference has gone from a two bid league to a one bid league at the bottom of the NCAA barrel. One of the absolutely most significant reasons the SBC sucks ditch water in basketball is because of this coaching staff being mediocre & this administration fostering mediocrity since Jesse. They're so damn afraid of getting called naughty, they won't take any chance, not ANY on possibly achieving any form of sustained success.

    If the SBC is to ever again become a respectable basketball conference, then it's up to UL to lead the way. Like it, or not the SBC is just as dependent on what UL does as UL is on the SBC, maybe more. Don't even try to tell me how full of crap I am until you prove how it hasn't worked for football, baseball, as well as basketball in the past. You want the Sunbelt to be a bigger player, then make UL competitive. UL is the heart of the Sunbelt. They should have the champion in every single sport every single season, or have to reckon why.
    No he is right, there is no, "you may be right about it". The other thing is the SBC is not a bottom of the barrel basketball conference it actually has an RPI as a conference of 16 out of 32 conferences. So it is a middle of the pack conference, the problem is that only about 10 conferences will get more than 1 bid. And many of those will be 2 bids. The majority will be taken up by the SEC, Big 12, Big East and Big 10. The Mountain West might get 3, the Pac 12 will get 3, the ACC might only get 3 or 4 this year. The AAC will have 2 possibly (a stretch 3), then the WCC will get 2 and everyone else will probably have 1 bid. That is 9 conferences with more than 1 bid and 2 with 2 and 7 making up the rest of the bids, that is of course unless a shocker happens in the top 9 conferences. Whether you are 16 or 11 in conference standings it doesn't matter, you are still getting 1 bid. The only way you will get potentially 2 is to have a conference similar to the WCC or the AAC that has a really good team and another that is a top 40 RPI team and might sneak in or have someone else win the tournament.

  9. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Basketball is where the NIL started years ago. Its just legal now.
    You are correct. The "bag man" has always been around college basketball programs.

    Ugly truth, most successful programs hire coaches who know how to navagite it. Bruce Pearl, Kelvin Sampson, Will Wade, Rick Barnes, John Calapari.

  10. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    No he is right, there is no, "you may be right about it". The other thing is the SBC is not a bottom of the barrel basketball conference it actually has an RPI as a conference of 16 out of 32 conferences. So it is a middle of the pack conference, the problem is that only about 10 conferences will get more than 1 bid. And many of those will be 2 bids. The majority will be taken up by the SEC, Big 12, Big East and Big 10. The Mountain West might get 3, the Pac 12 will get 3, the ACC might only get 3 or 4 this year. The AAC will have 2 possibly (a stretch 3), then the WCC will get 2 and everyone else will probably have 1 bid. That is 9 conferences with more than 1 bid and 2 with 2 and 7 making up the rest of the bids, that is of course unless a shocker happens in the top 9 conferences. Whether you are 16 or 11 in conference standings it doesn't matter, you are still getting 1 bid. The only way you will get potentially 2 is to have a conference similar to the WCC or the AAC that has a really good team and another that is a top 40 RPI team and might sneak in or have someone else win the tournament.
    Blah, blah, blah, Sunbelt basketball has sucked & dwindled down to nothing as UL has sucked & dwindled down to nothing. You can put all the lipstick you want on this pig. It still lives in a sty & eats NCAA slop because UL has abandoned it's place as a conference leader. IF you can't change the conference you occupy, yo can damn sure change the perception of the conference you occupy by changing your own competitiveness in it.

    This isn't win one for hometown U any more in college sports. It's semi pro everything now. And you either eat, or get eaten. The sooner everyone in the University of Louisiana orbit realizes this the better off everyone will be. There are no excuses in professional sports. There are only champions & those competing for championships, or you are along for the ride watching everyone else eat your cake & have their way with your date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    With the addition of NIL, we will never compete for the CFP title, therefore we'll no longer get the fan support we imagined for football. We're playing for a New Year's Six bowl opportunity at best.

    Investing heavy in basketball should be the smart play of any Group of 5 conference school. With the recent updages, make Cajuns basketball the place to be. We may have to add premium seating or club level, but if ther was a good basketball product and great social atmosphere, Acadiana would get behind it.

    Remember, it was Wichita St. basketball that got the an invite to the American Athletic Conference.

    We should have the expection of a perennial Sweet 16 basketball program. A good basketball product is what the state of Louisiana needs. It's there for the taking.
    Playing for a NYD bowl is more than anything we’ve ever played for before…

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    Chris Marcus. There's a name I haven't heard in a while. He and Southall had some battles!


  13. #118

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    We caught lightning in a bottle with Billy. He was able to develop players without being gutted every year by transfers. Times have changed quickly. The top G5 schools are nothing but feeders to P5 schools now. The current model is unsustainable in college football. We'll be a great middle of the road football team as Mike develops talent, but we won't keep top talent for 3 years anymore. They'll transfer to bigger opportunities.

    That's why it's easier to pool most of our NIL resources into 5-10 basketball players as compared to 25-30 football players.

    Much cheaper travel, and flexibility within the budget. You never have to worry about weather conditions or competition with LSU football for fans. We could be the premier college basketball destination for Louisiana college basketball players. Think along the lines of Marquette in Wisconsin, Butler in Indiana,Creighton in Nebraska, Baylor in Texas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    We caught lightning in a bottle with Billy. He was able to develop players without being gutted every year by transfers. Times have changed quickly. The top G5 schools are nothing but feeders to P5 schools now. The current model is unsustainable in college football. We'll be a great middle of the road football team as Mike develops talent, but we won't keep top talent for 3 years anymore. They'll transfer to bigger opportunities.

    That's why it's easier to pool most of our NIL resources into 5-10 basketball players as compared to 25-30 football players.

    Much cheaper travel, and flexibility within the budget. You never have to worry about weather conditions or competition with LSU football for fans. We could be the premier college basketball destination for Louisiana college basketball players. Think along the lines of Marquette in Wisconsin, Butler in Indiana,Creighton in Nebraska, Baylor in Texas.
    We did not “catch lightening in a bottle” with Napier. We hired a legit up and coming young star with connections, relationships and pedigree.

    It can be done again. In more sports than just FB.

  15. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Malkinson View Post
    Yeah Jay Johnson was 1000x better OC and was the straw that stirred the drink
    I agree with you on Jay being a better offensive mind than Hud. He was actually a friend that I sat next to at many baseball tournaments. He is finally getting to the level job as OC that Bustle was at Va Tech when came here. If being a head coach is what he desires I hope he gets that opportunity.

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