Since P5's wants separation, why not give it to them?

[CajunRebel]

First and foremost, this would do absolutely nothing to stop the negative effects of NIL & the transfer portal on G5 Schools. It doesn't matter if the G5 makes a "no transfer" rule if the P5 NCAA keeps its current policy. Players will just say "cool, good thing I'm not in your league anymore" as they sign with their new P5 NCAA team. It also won't stop those same kids from being lured away from G5s with P5 NIL deals. And it won't even prevent G5 NIL deals. The NCAA didn't want NIL to happen. They had to let it happen for antitrust reasons. And so would a G5 league.

Second, we'd lose a lot of money by doing this. The going rate for P5 money games these days is something like $1.5-2 million. We get another $1.8 million/yr from the CFP. And we'd almost certainly lose TV revenue as well. ESPN won't want to give us $2 million/yr if the product we are giving them is minor league college football instead of top 25 major college football.

[CajunRebel]

I guess what I'm saying is you just need to bend over and take it like a man. The less you try to fight it the less it ends up hurting.

[UL_Cajuns]

That is exactly the thinking they want. Then the G-5 = The new FCS

We've already like stupid lemmings; fell into the "mid-major" crap that basketball has become.

"Oh, we're ranked #3 in the mid major poll" a few years back and some people lapped that up like a dog returning to its vomit.

We have fell into the G5 trap. This G5 label only came about when they grouped us G5 conferences together when they dangled that NY6 automatic qualifier for top G5 conference champion. While it is nice to have they are constantly moving the sticks. Cincy made the playoff and they took that G5 NY6 bowl away from us this year.
There was no so called G5 and P5 before the CFP. We should be demanding at least one automatic qualifier for the CFP when if and when it expands to 12 teams. We should also be demanding that G5's still have a shot at an at large as well.

[Cajunologist]

1)
10) cameras facing the full side of the stadium.

Why dont we put the press box on the visitors side when we redo the stadium? Just suites on the home side.

[KajunKrazy]

With the present situation with NIL, transfer portal and no true NCAA football playoff system, if the G5 universities don't make a change soon, then college football as we know it will cease to exist.

P5 conferences really don't want to include G5 in the subjective playoff system, yet they want to continue to play the G5 universities to pad their win totals, though that doesn't always work to their favor. But even when a G5 university beats a P5 university, it doesn't do anything to help the G5 move up in the rankings, only lower the P5 rankings.

Solution:
There are five G5 conferences and five P5 conferences. Starting immediately, P5 schools can only schedule P5 schools, no longer can they they include a G5 school or lesser on their schedule. Let them fight amongst themselves and they can make up how they decide their champion at the end of the season.

G5 universities can only play G5 universities. But at the end of the season, have a true playoff system. Take the 5 conference champs with 5 at large bids decided by ranking and have a true G5 champion. Take away all bowl games.

NIL wouldn't hurt the G5's as much, nor the transfer portal. NCAA and the P5's would totally revamp how they consider the G5 universities. P5 universities would come crawling back and change the entire playoff system.

Just my thought and 2 cents.

That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You giving up millions of dollars in money games. And G5s would still become like a ju co system for the P5s, so now you're getting scr___ed out of paydays and players.

[ZoomZoom]

We have fell into the G5 trap. This G5 label only came about when they grouped us G5 conferences together when they dangled that NY6 automatic qualifier for top G5 conference champion. While it is nice to have they are constantly moving the sticks. Cincy made the playoff and they took that G5 NY6 bowl away from us this year.
There was no so called G5 and P5 before the CFP. We should be demanding at least one automatic qualifier for the CFP when if and when it expands to 12 teams. We should also be demanding that G5's still have a shot at an at large as well.

We’re at the proverbial line in the sand as far as antitrust considerations. As long as “G5” hangs around, the wolves are held at bay. The moment the lemmings WILLINGLY VOTE to go over the cliff and declare they want their own G5 championship, it’s over.

In the meantime the G5 leagues will slowly all become one bid leagues in every non football sport.

The league movement this past fall was no fluke. It’s just a matter of time until the P5 becomes the P4.

We need to hold our ground, just like we did when the 1-A 1-AA split happened.

[CajunSaint08]

That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You giving up millions of dollars in money games. And G5s would still become like a ju co system for the P5s, so now you're getting scr___ed out of paydays and players.

G5's would learn to budget without.

[ImperialCajun]

We’re at the proverbial line in the sand as far as antitrust considerations. As long as “G5” hangs around, the wolves are held at bay. The moment the lemmings WILLINGLY VOTE to go over the cliff and declare they want their own G5 championship, it’s over.

In the meantime the G5 leagues will slowly all become one bid leagues in every non football sport.

The league movement this past fall was no fluke. It’s just a matter of time until the P5 becomes the P4.

We need to hold our ground, just like we did when the 1-A 1-AA split happened.

1) make sure our product is vastly better than FCS and don’t play any FCS
2) student/athletes contract must be repaid if broken
3) ESPN runs the present show. Make a deal with whoever wants to compete with them.
4) March madness our 32 on one channel and their 32 on another
5) you need to build a new and better mouse trap. There can be NO Vanderbilt or ULM. The Network will have to help sell the product. Not G5, “American College Championship Association “

[ZoomZoom]

1) make sure our product is vastly better than FCS and don’t play any FCS
2) student/athletes contract must be repaid if broken
3) ESPN runs the present show. Make a deal with whoever wants to compete with them.
4) March madness our 32 on one channel and their 32 on another
5) you need to build a new and better mouse trap. There can be NO Vanderbilt or ULM. The Network will have to help sell the product. Not G5, “American College Championship Association “

Yeah that #3 would be our collective death.

Ask CUSA how that approached magnified their product.

[CajunRebel]

Why dont we put the press box on the visitors side when we redo the stadium? Just suites on the home side.

TV cameras can’t face the sun, and TV broadcast has to be on the same side as the cameras.

[Turbine]

TV cameras can’t face the sun, and TV broadcast has to be on the same side as the cameras.

That's exactly right.

Which is why every game should be a Louisiana Saturday Night game.... in a percect football world

[Rainman66]

1) I prefer student athletes but they should get a standardized amount of scratch. And should sign a 5 year contract in exchange for all of the various compensation.
2) we could still play p5 teams but at set amounts across all G5 teams(3 mil) per game or 2 mil and return trip game.
3) 5 balanced # conferences, playing only among ourselves unless really paid. No 1AA games.
4) let bowls bid on playoff games hosting
5) one giant contract with television.
6) call it “real college football!”
7) 12th game is conf. Championship. Rest of conference is seeded out to give best schools a final chance to make playoffs with their 12th game.
8) 16 team playoff
9) 94 scholarships, 110 total players at practice
10) cameras facing the full side of the stadium.

#1 will never fly as NIL is now legal.
#2. Limiting the opportunity of universities to maximize a P5 game
#3. A giant TV contract? You want a lot of networks bidding on pieces of the schedule.
#4. 110 players is 25 less than we have now. Need those numbers to get really good reps for eveyone.

[ImperialCajun]

Well you may be right. But, what I do know is that the top 30 money programs are only using the rest of us as chicken feed. The separation, is both financial and a glass ceiling. How long until another Cincinnati gets a shot. My ideas may need tweaking, but at least there is a chance at an equitable future in them. And we could have a schedule that has just one week day game and 5 Saturday games and only morning games when needed for TV. You want to compete? Then our product against their product. I think we need at least 60 teams to be viable. Maybe we need 2 or three networks to join us and compete with ESPN. The NCAA is a broken institution that we never had or will get a viable seat at the table, so why support what does not support us?

[CajunEXPRESS]

Well you may be right. But, what I do know is that the top 30 money programs are only using the rest of us as chicken feed. The separation, is both financial and a glass ceiling. How long until another Cincinnati gets a shot. My ideas may need tweaking, but at least there is a chance at an equitable future in them. And we could have a schedule that has just one week day game and 5 Saturday games and only morning games when needed for TV. You want to compete? Then our product against their product. I think we need at least 60 teams to be viable. Maybe we need 2 or three networks to join us and compete with ESPN. The NCAA is a broken institution that we never had or will get a viable seat at the table, so why support what does not support us?

So you believe we should jump into a lifeboat because after all is said and done the current model is the Titanic early on after hitting the iceberg.

[UL_Cajuns]

So you believe we should jump into a lifeboat because after all is said and done the current model is the Titanic early on after hitting the iceberg.

Exactly!
We have had a ranked program in the top 25 two years in a row in this current system. Why give up now? Hell NAW!!!!!!!!!!