Another Coach Headed to Florida

[covcaj]

Stop answering a question with a question!

WOW!!! Heck of a response. I wasn't asked a question, so I couldn't be answering a question with a question. Second, it was a legitimate seeking of information. I do not believe an unusual number of position coaches have gone to Florida and was asking for that information.

[LouisianaB]

I disagree that this doesn’t happen in most places after coaching changes. You are just seeing it first hand. Most people have no clue who are the analyst, GA’s or personnel assistants are until they leave. This is the same at every school.

One thing Florida has done that most schools don’t, is publicly announce every single hire.

I have yet to see an example like Napier to Florida. I ran the numbers in a previous thread

Rough count by comparing staff pages

Lane Kiffin 2019 FAU to 2020 Ole Miss:
0 players
6 staff/coaches. He took his S&C guy, RB Coach, AST. Director of football ops, player development, defensive analyst, and offensive assistant

Harsin 2020 Boise to 2021 Auburn
0 players
10 staff. OC, DC, Run Game Coord, offensive grad assistant, director of sports performance, associate director of sports perf, assistant director of sports perf, chief of staff, director of recruiting, assistant to HC

We currently have 26 (and apparently counting)

1. Jabbar Juluke (RB Coach to RB Coach)
2. Darnell Stapleton (OL coach to OL coach)
3. Patrick Toney (DC to DC)
4. Doug Domingue (Video to Director of Recruiting Innovation)
5. Bri Wade (Director of On campus recruiting, same)
6. CJ Wilford (Defensive Analyst to Defensive analyst)
7. Edward Thompson (S&C assistant, same)
8. Mark Hocke (S&C and Associate HC, same)
9. Ashoor Peera (Dir of Player Engagement to AST Director of Football Ops)
10. Ryan O’Hara (Offensive Analyst, same)
11. Frank Ogas (Dir of Player Development to AST Dir of Player Development)
12. Braxton Morris (defensive QC to defensive QC)
13. Nick McDonald (Recruiting QC to personnel analyst for offense)
14. Jacob LaFrance (Director of player personnel to same)
15. Kyle Kazakevicius (Director of Recruiting and Offenside Analyst to Assistant DFO for Quality Control / Assistant to the Head Coach)
16. Tony Hill (associate director of sports med/head FB trainer to same)
17. Joe Hamiliton (QC player personnel and recruiting to defensive analyst)
18. Karmicharl Dunbar (S&C assistant to same)
19. David Doeker (offensive grad assistant to same)
20. Andrew Burkett (Dir of research and eval, same)
21. Chris Couch (ST to ST)
22. O’Cyrus Torrence (OL)
23. Montrelle Johnson (RB)
24. Kamryn Waites (OL)
25. An OL commit (name?)
26. Mike Richard (OL QC)

[Cajun Monkee]

How many staff members did the football team have September of this year?

Coaches, assistant coaches, analyst, coordinators, academic counselors,Game day personnel, Snowcone salesman, phlebotomists,Haberdasher’s, etc.

[moorecajun]

What I don't understand is, if uf's staff is mostly our staff from last year AND the players that have left, moved to sec schools, shouldn't we have looked better last year.

I know we went 13-1, but a lot of those games were close and could have been losses. Our loss was to an incoming sec school who (IMO) will be middle of the pack or lower sec.

My point is that I don't think this translates too well for uf. They will be UL.2 next year staff wise.

I think it is very good publicity for us and will help us recruiting wise, as long as we keep our recruitment info quiet until they are signed! And put a fence around the portal!

[Cajunologist]

What I don't understand is, if uf's staff is mostly our staff from last year AND the players that have left, moved to sec schools, shouldn't we have looked better last year.

I know we went 13-1, but a lot of those games were close and could have been losses. Our loss was to an incoming sec school who (IMO) will be middle of the pack or lower sec.

My point is that I don't think this translates too well for uf. They will be UL.2 next year staff wise.

I think it is very good publicity for us and will help us recruiting wise, as long as we keep our recruitment info quiet until they are signed! And put a fence around the portal!

7 of the 13 wins were 1 score games. We needed an SEC staff to get us enough points to win?

[Cajun Monkee]

What I don't understand is, if uf's staff is mostly our staff from last year AND the players that have left, moved to sec schools, shouldn't we have looked better last year.

I know we went 13-1, but a lot of those games were close and could have been losses. Our loss was to an incoming sec school who (IMO) will be middle of the pack or lower sec.

My point is that I don't think this translates too well for uf. They will be UL.2 next year staff wise.

I think it is very good publicity for us and will help us recruiting wise, as long as we keep our recruitment info quiet until they are signed! And put a fence around the portal!

I think this was Zee’s point in a thread that he started and he pretty much got flamed for it.

Furthermore, there was a thread about the Marshal game on the Sun Belt message board and one of the comments was that this was a typical UL game….

Play down to the level of the opponent and then have a strong fourth quarter.

In my humble opinion, in retrospect, the Texas game was Napier’s Florida game (ironically enough).

Hud and Napier were both in the position to make huge statements and they quite simply failed.

One of the complaints unthaw a message boards I saw about Florida’s athletic Director was that he did not addressed soft infrastructure i.e. staffing for the sports.

So either Florida had (has) ____ for staffing of their athletic teams, or, is Napier USLing it with those he feels most comfortable?

[Clutch0364]

I have yet to see an example like Napier to Florida. I ran the numbers in a previous thread

Rough count by comparing staff pages

Lane Kiffin 2019 FAU to 2020 Ole Miss:
0 players
6 staff/coaches. He took his S&C guy, RB Coach, AST. Director of football ops, player development, defensive analyst, and offensive assistant

Harsin 2020 Boise to 2021 Auburn
0 players
10 staff. OC, DC, Run Game Coord, offensive grad assistant, director of sports performance, associate director of sports perf, assistant director of sports perf, chief of staff, director of recruiting, assistant to HC

We currently have 26 (and apparently counting)

1. Jabbar Juluke (RB Coach to RB Coach)
2. Darnell Stapleton (OL coach to OL coach)
3. Patrick Toney (DC to DC)
4. Doug Domingue (Video to Director of Recruiting Innovation)
5. Bri Wade (Director of On campus recruiting, same)
6. CJ Wilford (Defensive Analyst to Defensive analyst)
7. Edward Thompson (S&C assistant, same)
8. Mark Hocke (S&C and Associate HC, same)
9. Ashoor Peera (Dir of Player Engagement to AST Director of Football Ops)
10. Ryan O’Hara (Offensive Analyst, same)
11. Frank Ogas (Dir of Player Development to AST Dir of Player Development)
12. Braxton Morris (defensive QC to defensive QC)
13. Nick McDonald (Recruiting QC to personnel analyst for offense)
14. Jacob LaFrance (Director of player personnel to same)
15. Kyle Kazakevicius (Director of Recruiting and Offenside Analyst to Assistant DFO for Quality Control / Assistant to the Head Coach)
16. Tony Hill (associate director of sports med/head FB trainer to same)
17. Joe Hamiliton (QC player personnel and recruiting to defensive analyst)
18. Karmicharl Dunbar (S&C assistant to same)
19. David Doeker (offensive grad assistant to same)
20. Andrew Burkett (Dir of research and eval, same)
21. Chris Couch (ST to ST)
22. O’Cyrus Torrence (OL)
23. Montrelle Johnson (RB)
24. Kamryn Waites (OL)
25. An OL commit (name?)
26. Mike Richard (OL QC)

I don’t mean this to be inflammatory so please don’t take it that way but the exact numbers would be very hard to find. I know one example for Ole Miss that is probably not on your list. Our new director of recruiting and logistics was a GA with FAU and followed Kiffin to Ole Miss. These are positions that you don’t see the full scope of because more teams aren’t publishing the comings and goings of analyst and GA’s. Over the last 4 years we have had a lot of analyst move on without a word mentioned.

[HelmutVII]

I sure am glad Napier had all the national ties to all the other schools or he would really be poaching our staff. Just sayin.

[facelessjonmoon]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...taff/49485407/

Some of the job titles are amusing. Even Florida fans have been making jokes about it.

[CajunT]

No I cannot because there is not enough reporting around GA’s/analyst/off field personnel. It’s easy to find what on field coaches have left but no one here can find info either way on off field moves. It’s not widely reported. If someone wants to show me otherwise, I am here to listen. Also using sunbelt teams as an example would be a bad equivalent because they haven’t had near the size staff that UL did under Napier.

They are called the shadow staff for a reason. Most of our guys weren’t even listed on our teams website.

Okay, but the suggestion that this is standard operating procedure as for as an entire operation from top to bottom is not accurate. If someone wants to spend the time at reading athletic websites and compare staff changes from year to year, the information exist. You won't find detailed information in news articles because media doesn't find that information relevant. Recent changes at Oklahoma and USC aren't close in total numbers of football operations.

Frankly, I'm over Billy Napier and people don't want to hear about this any longer. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground.

Richard leaving is not a total surprise, because as of two weeks ago he changed his Twitter profile from Assistant Football Coach at Louisiana, to just Football Coach with no mention of UL. I trust in Mike Desormeaux, he will get the job done.

[Clutch0364]

Okay, but your suggestion that this is standard operating procedure as for as an entire operation from top to bottom is not accurate. If someone wants to spend the time at reading athletic websites and compare staff changes from year to year, the information exist. You won't find detailed information in news articles because media doesn't find that information relevant. Recent changes at Oklahoma and USC aren't close in total numbers if football operations.

Frankly, I'm over Billy Napier and people don't want to hear about this any longer. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground.

Richard leaving is not a total surprise, because as of two weeks ago he changed his Twitter profile from Assistant Football Coach at Louisiana, to just Football Coach with no mention of UL. I trust in Mike Desormeaux, he will get the job done.

I trust him as well. I really don’t care who leaves anymore. It’s on Des to build his organization the way he wants.

[fanof71]

Time to turn the page...Realize its hard for some of you to wrap your head around the fact that some people choose to follow their career dreams. Money talks and trumps most things, and how bad can it be to do the same work at UF that you did at UL, get paid twice as much, have a bigger budget to help you do your job, and then walk out of the tunnel 7 or 8 Saturdays a fall at home in front of 75000 fans...Thanks to casual fans, UL can't sell out a CCG as a nationally ranked team.

With that said, I think Maggard has to be smarter in "damage control" the next time we go through this again...and we will...