We Need A Cajun Collective

[CajunNation]

1332519[/URL]]I don’t know about that. They’ll still get 5 stars, but what about the 3 stars that would choose us over them knowing they’ll get more playing time here.

If that 3 star is offered 350k to sit the bench, I’m sure he’ll take it.

…and every other G5 will be in the same boat.

[Esqueleto]

College athletics are dead at the D-1 level. It has become semi-professional, and we are stuck in the Championship division of English football with no possibility of promotion.
With NIL and the TP there will only be 8 teams with a realistic chance of competing for a championship and only another 16 or so with an outside chance.
We as Louisiana and SBC fans have to accept the fact that this is the DEATH BLOW.

[angeleast]

College athletics are dead at the D-1 level. It has become semi-professional, and we are stuck in the Championship division of English football with no possibility of promotion.
With NIL and the TP there will only be 8 teams with a realistic chance of competing for a championship and only another 16 or so with an outside chance.
We as Louisiana and SBC fans have to accept the fact that this is the DEATH BLOW.

Separation with equal rules will occur. Some pac 10 , big 12 etc aka bottom feeders of big time conferences will have to join g5.

[ZoomZoom]

When the P-5s realize they simply need to schedule each other for OOC games, the party is over.

[CajunVic]

When the P-5s realize they simply need to schedule each other for OOC games, the party is over.

So, you don’t think they realize that already?

[CajunRebel]

Separation with equal rules will occur. Some pac 10 , big 12 etc aka bottom feeders of big time conferences will have to join g5.

I don’t see how that will even be possible.

This is all happening because after a recent Supreme Court ruling the NCAA realized preventing players from earning income from outside sources violates antitrust laws. If the NCAA can’t do it, then neither can the Sun Belt.

I suppose a conference and it’s athletes could implement a collective bargaining agreement like pro leagues have, but I can’t imagine why players would ever agree to forfeit outside revenue.

BTW, this is one post where I hope someone smarter than me comes in and proves me wrong and says it is possible.

[cajun55]

“The game has changed. The sooner we learn how to play it the better.”

The game hasn’t just changed, it’s eroding. Say what you want but it’s a microcosm of our society and institutions at large. I have nothing more to contribute to this topic. I will support the Cajuns no matter what but college football is heading in the wrong direction.

[moorecajun]

“The game has changed. The sooner we learn how to play it the better.”

The game hasn’t just changed, it’s eroding. Say what you want but it’s a microcosm of our society and institutions at large. I have nothing more to contribute to this topic. I will support the Cajuns no matter what but college football is heading in the wrong direction.

I totally agree. I have already given up on pro sports, now college football is on the block.

[HelmutVII]

The only thing I have to say is this. The average college football game has a total 73.5 plays. lets call it 80. assume 40 offensive and defensive plays per team. The only players that are in on every play is quarterback and center. others rotate in and out. So it will boil down to who gets playing time. (unless they increase the number of players on the field but that ain't happening). Are these players going to be happy being paid bench warmers or will they want to get more playing time. Will the people paying be willing to pay bench warmers. I really don't see this as being sustainable because something has got to give.

[Cajunrunner]

What is an eighteen year old going to do with six figure income in college? Y’all have seen NBA, NFL players unable to handle that kind of money without their lives turning into pure chaos. Riding the pine and a overflowing bank account isn’t going to work for most.

They better get some tax advice too, which may cost money.

I'm with another poster above. I have no problem with an athlete able to make some additional money so they don't have to struggle, i.e. working camps, private workout lessons, etc.

However, if this thing is going to turn into free agency to the highest bidder, year by year, like the free market, then it needs to turn into the real free market. Majority of your companies in the business world, if they pay for you to finish higher education as their employee, or they pay for you to attend additional school for a masters or law degree, will have as a stipulation you work for them for X number of years, or you will owe $X of dollars.

So now, if a school burns a scholarship on recruiting day on one athlete, and that athlete is ready to bolt after one year to the highest NIL bidder, great...pay back some of that scholarship money. Or negotiate your new NIL taker to pay it back for you, either way, if you want to be treated like an adult in the free market business world, then all aspects and considerations need to be in play.

[ManAboutTown]

I understand everyone’s hesitance and an individual stance.

The larger picture is, successful Cajuns Athletics has a significant impact on the Lafayette and Acadiana economies. Those businesses (franchises, chains and local) have much more incentive to get involved than the little guy like you and me. What I’m suggesting is, we need someone (our some group) to spearhead that specific effort. And we need our administration to WANT it to happen.

[Cajun Monkee]

When the P-5s realize they simply need to schedule each other for OOC games, the party is over.

This.

Vampirism doesn't work. At the end of the day, you run out of necks to suck.

The P-5s have been wanting their separate division all along. Well, now you might be getting it. But that number of 64 teams they envisioned? Maybe just 16 haves and 48 neber-gonna-bees.

Indiana? Now, you are gonna have to play the sacrificial money games.

Vanderbilt? Good luck playing Ohio State, Clemson, and Michigan for your OOC games.

I've always wished the G5s would stand their ground and simply tell the P5s to kiss off...eat your own.

In the next 15-20 years (or sooner) there just might not be any G5s left to say this.

[CajunRebel]

“The game has changed. The sooner we learn how to play it the better.”

The game hasn’t just changed, it’s eroding. Say what you want but it’s a microcosm of our society and institutions at large. I have nothing more to contribute to this topic. I will support the Cajuns no matter what but college football is heading in the wrong direction.

The US sports landscape is unique in how "socialist" of a system it is. Pro leagues have salary minimums, salary caps, and rules that prevent a player from moving freely from team to team. They also share huge amounts of revenue with each other. In the NCAA, the rules are even more socialist. They had rules restricting free movement, rules that prevent teams from paying for labor, and rules that prevent that labor from earning outside income.

So yeah, it is definitely a microcosm of our society, but probably not in the way you're thinking. This is a direct result of our society creating antitrust laws that are designed to protect and promote free market capitalism. Nothing more, nothing less. We are a society that values free market capitalism. For better or worse, this new change brings the NCAA closer to free market capitalism.

I'm just as sad as you are about this change and what it means for college football, and I'm just as worried that it is going to screw us over, but I can't argue at all with the principle of it all. If I as an American have a right to participate in a free labor market, I can't say other Americans shouldn't have that same right.

[CajunJeaux]

The US sports landscape is unique in how "socialist" of a system it is. Pro leagues have salary minimums, salary caps, and rules that prevent a player from moving freely from team to team. They also share huge amounts of revenue with each other. In the NCAA, the rules are even more socialist. They had rules restricting free movement, rules that prevent teams from paying for labor, and rules that prevent that labor from earning outside income.

So yeah, it is definitely a microcosm of our society, but probably not in the way you're thinking. This is a direct result of our society creating antitrust laws that are designed to protect and promote free market capitalism. Nothing more, nothing less. We are a society that values free market capitalism. For better or worse, this new change brings the NCAA closer to free market capitalism.

I'm just as sad as you are about this change and what it means for college football, and I'm just as worried that it is going to screw us over, but I can't argue at all with the principle of it all. If I as an American have a right to participate in a free labor market, I can't say other Americans shouldn't have that same right.

Absolutely agree with you, Rebel. Well stated.

What it will boil down to is this: are Fans going to continue to sink their hard-earned money into this new model of entertainment or not? If yes (which is most likely result), the show will go on.

[CharlieK]

The US sports landscape is unique in how "socialist" of a system it is. Pro leagues have salary minimums, salary caps, and rules that prevent a player from moving freely from team to team. They also share huge amounts of revenue with each other. In the NCAA, the rules are even more socialist. They had rules restricting free movement, rules that prevent teams from paying for labor, and rules that prevent that labor from earning outside income.

So yeah, it is definitely a microcosm of our society, but probably not in the way you're thinking. This is a direct result of our society creating antitrust laws that are designed to protect and promote free market capitalism. Nothing more, nothing less. We are a society that values free market capitalism. For better or worse, this new change brings the NCAA closer to free market capitalism.

I'm just as sad as you are about this change and what it means for college football, and I'm just as worried that it is going to screw us over, but I can't argue at all with the principle of it all. If I as an American have a right to participate in a free labor market, I can't say other Americans shouldn't have that same right.

Pro leagues are not socialist. No more than McDonald's, who has franchises, is socialist just because they have a set of corporate rules that every franchisee much adhere to and that were created to make the entity as a whole more competitive. Pro leagues are entities, competing in the free market, with other entertainment entities trying to get your entertainment dollar. So is big time NCAA sports, even though they do wear the hypocritical façade of being about the amateur athlete and rah rah school spirit.