Transfer Portal

[Cajun Monkee]

That was based upon the number of returning athletes at each position and the NCAA mandate that each program return to the 85 scholarship limit.

So is everybody else experiencing the same issue as us?

It seems the last few years, our signing classes have been almost double what is available this year.

According to 247 our signee/transfer totals for the last three years are 29/4, 21/3, and 20/9.

Did we overextend which also contributed to the lack of available scholarships?

Also, I'm assuming if Torrence and Garner leave, those scholarships will be available? Or did we already pull them in anticipation of them not being around?

[RaginCajun77]

So, as it stands now are there any financial limits on NIL deals?

[JamesTheJeweler]

Billy doesn't have to be entirely aware of it, since it's all handled by compliance and the business entity. Now it's highly questionable to assume Billy Napier, or any head coach is not aware after the deal is done that one of his top athletes has a NIL agreement in place. If a coach like Lincoln Riley and his staff at USC, and Steve Sarkisian at Texas are openly selling NIL opportunities to athletes to come play in there programs, Billy Napier is not going to use it at the University of Florida?

Billy Napier and his staff are going to use the NIL as a recruiting tool, they have no choice if he is going to compete for the top athletes against Alabama, Georgia and Auburn. I highly doubt Billy Napier is unaware of any discussions with his former players mentioned in this thread. What is hard to prove is if these players has every intention on leaving and playing for him after he was hired at Florida, or they continued conversations by the use of third parties.

I understand all of that.

[KajunKrazy]

So far UL appears to be losing 2 players to billy. Is that gonna be all? Who else might be considering a move? If it stands at just 2 then no big deal.

[Turbine]

Offensive Line changes magnify everything. Good and bad.

It all begins with the Time Machines

[Esqueleto]

How would Napier be unaware of it? Some business doesnt just randomly offer a kid an NIL deal on the off chance he may end up there. These businesses offering NIL deals would need to know what players are wanted. Napier has to want those players, and let them know they have a place. Regardless if its about NIL or just a scholarship offer, those kids had to be contacted and let them know they have a place there. Unless you believe Garner and Torrence just didnt want to be here and entered the portal together, with no place in mind. It ALL starts with Napier. Am I upset because I didnt think this would happen? Absolutely not. I said this would happen. Its upsetting because if Napier gave Des the recommendation to "continue" what we had going, then systematically pillages the compound of our best coaches, staff, and players....thats sh__y. Its like, "hey buddy, Im handing you the keys to the kingdom!" "Oh, by the way, Im taking the kingdom with me.....but you can have these keys." Whats most damaging is that you did that to a coach with zero ties and contacts outside this university. I feel bad for Des. Do I get it? Yes. Its just the way it is now? Yes. Its still sh__ty to do to someone you were were supposedly trying to help. If this is "just business" and thats what he was gonna do, dont recommend Des. Recommend a guy like himself that had the experience, the tools and the contacts to be able to do what he did here.

That's why you never let the guy leaving pick his replacement. Plain and simple.

[JamesTheJeweler]

Yup.

Why would Billy Bob Gator offer O'Cyrus Torrence a $75,000 contract to go to UL?

And if Billy Bob Gator is such a good evaluator of talent to intuitively know just who a coach wants, Bill Bob Gator needs to be hired as the recruiting coordinator for that school.

Exactly my point that many seem to be missing. Billy, or some third party directed by Billy, would have to let it be known, that Garner and Torrence, are players we want. THEN, those people, in some form or fashion, let Torrence and Garner know that they are wanted by Florida, and here is the scholly, or NIL deal, or both, that are on the table. Then said players enter the portal. Do any of you believe those guys dont want to be here and just both decided to enter the portal together? Maybe. Do any of you think said players didnt have any idea of a scholly or NIL deal on the table before entering the portal? Its pretty naive to believe that. Can it be proven? Not likely. And that is why they do it. Which again makes the Des recommendation from Billy so sh__y.

[cajuns80]

So, as it stands now are there any financial limits on NIL deals?

None

[Rougarou]

And another thing. Some of you want it both ways. Many of you here were telling people that hiring a coach like Des, wasnt going to be a problem. It didnt matter that he had no experience or contacts outside of the university, because "Napier was gonna help him out with that". "No way was Napier gonna recommend him for the job, then not help him be succesful". Remember? Telling people to stop bringing up these concerns?

This is where I’m starting tho come down. Des got the job to keep cohesiveness at the recommendation of Napier. That was the hiring strategy Maggard went with and it makes sense.

Yet subsequent to that, Napier has, in my opinion, wrecked that cohesiveness by taking coaches, staff, and likely now star players. That certainly calls into question the hiring strategy. I’m not saying it was the wrong strategy and it won’t turn out to be the right one. I do believe in Mike but it’s starting to look like his mentor is putting him in a difficult position to succeed.

I would love to know what Maggard’s honest thoughts on all this.

EDIT: Meant to quote the jeweler’s previous post, not the one quoted above.

[60swerethebest]

Wife is watching soap opera on TV. I’m reading one on RP. Looking fwd to football season in fall.