……I think the biggest part of this negative experience part of his being hired is that the vicarious transmission of Nap to Des…..man you work every day for 4 plus years with a mentor/co worker, you are that man and sometimes the former becomes part of the latter……Des has been to Clemson, Alabama, and Arizona…..he has experienced the good and bad and coulda shoulda woulda……and yes not the empirical knowledge but close to it!