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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Are you a sports fan, a partial imput computer, or just someone who just likes to argue?

    If there were no true experience inflating or deflating of percentages, Louisiana's 3-0 and Gonzaga's 3-0 would be viewed in exactly the same light when it comes to rankings.
    Are you a sports fan, a partial input computer, or just someone who likes to argue?

    Why do you refuse to admit that you are viewing win percentage and attempting to see SOS? For a smart man like you are, this is mind boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    ... What does “over inflate a win percentage” mean?
    It has nothing to do with the bottom of a spreadsheet column. It has everything to do with perception.

    Competitive recognition in sports cannot exist without variances in perception.

    Inflating or deflating a winning percentage is within the natural order of evaluating the quality of a team or season.

    It is recognition that some Ws are bigger accomplishments than other Ws

    Denying that "record" deflation and inflation (in sports) exists means you ignore every tangible or intangible and percieve a team with a weak schedule in the same light as a team with a strong schedule just because they have the same record at the bottom of a spreadsheet.

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    Default Re: Reminder of MBB tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Playing 13 guys results in sloppy play. That many won’t play at Indiana. Positive was 10 three pointers made tonight. Agree that bigs dribble too much and that was a big factor in high turnover number. Xavier has an NAIA All American who played well. Forgot his name but was Number 3 I believe. Indiana game Sunday night will be interesting.
    Number 3 was really good, and 2. They were able to get to their spots and we really couldn't bother them. They just gassed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    Number 3 was really good, and 2. They were able to get to their spots and we really couldn't bother them. They just gassed out.
    No. 11 was a key to Xavier as well. Short very quick guy who was very good with dribble penetration. He set up the scorers and hit a couple of nice floaters while being pressured. No. 4 was Corey Dunning from Lafayette High. He considered walking on here but ultimately decided to take the scholarship to Xavier. He did not score much but did well for the Gold Rush defensively and on the glass. Brown did abuse him a couple of times early in the game but Jordan did not do as well in the second half. I suspect we will continue to see the large number of players see action in the remaining home games prior to league play beginning. I doubt we see that in the road games as all 4 are against much tougher competition. Hard to establish rhythm when 13 guys are playing significant minutes.

  5. Default Re: Reminder of MBB tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    It has nothing to do with the bottom of a spreadsheet column. It has everything to do with perception.

    Competitive recognition in sports cannot exist without variances in perception.

    Inflating or deflating a winning percentage is within the natural order of evaluating the quality of a team or season.

    It is recognition that some Ws are bigger accomplishments than other Ws

    Denying that "record" deflation and inflation (in sports) exists means you ignore every tangible or intangible and percieve a team with a weak schedule in the same light as a team with a strong schedule just because they have the same record at the bottom of a spreadsheet.
    Very nice SOS analysis. Kudos to you on that.

  6. UL Basketball Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    No doubt the Xavier Gold Rush are way more talented than one would expect. Good shooters, quick, athletic, and well coached.

    We still should have beaten them by 25+ points.


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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    No doubt the Xavier Gold Rush are way more talented than one would expect. Good shooters, quick, athletic, and well coached.

    We still should have beaten them by 25+ points.
    I gather we gave pretty near the entire team significant playing time last night, which is exactly why you schedule these games. However, that does affect continuity, and, I imagine, the last five guys in are not as talented as the first five.

  8. Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    Quote Originally Posted by covcaj View Post
    I gather we gave pretty near the entire team significant playing time last night, which is exactly why you schedule these games. However, that does affect continuity, and, I imagine, the last five guys in are not as talented as the first five.
    The starting 5, and best 10 played the vast majority of minutes. The team was unable to ever get beyond 19 point lead. We were out rebounded by a smaller, shorter team. We had more forced and unforced turnovers.

    I’m still giving the Gold Rush appropriate respect. These lapses by a Marlin coached team always have excusers. Those excuses go up in flames once we play better division I teams.

    I’m not criticizing Marlin here just saying what I witnessed last night. Hopefully he surprises me and coaches great games this season with great outcomes. I expect to be competitive against Indiana, beat Marshall, LoTech, Brokebacks , and UNeaux over the next few weeks.

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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    The starting 5, and best 10 played the vast majority of minutes. The team was unable to ever get beyond 19 point lead. We were out rebounded by a smaller, shorter team. We had more forced and unforced turnovers.

    I’m still giving the Gold Rush appropriate respect. These lapses by a Marlin coached team always have excusers. Those excuses go up in flames once we play better division I teams.

    I’m not criticizing Marlin here just saying what I witnessed last night. Hopefully he surprises me and coaches great games this season with great outcomes. I expect to be competitive against Indiana, beat Marshall, LoTech, Brokebacks , and UNeaux over the next few weeks.
    Actually the Cajuns outrebounded Xavier by 8. The turnovers were the most disappointing stat as the Cajuns had 3 more than their opponent. Still, I think the coaching staff was quite disappointed with the play, particularly in the second half. If you listened to Coach Marlin's post game interview you would think the Cajuns had lost the game. I bet they had lots to go over in practice today.

  10. Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    I guess I misheard that rebounding stat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Actually the Cajuns outrebounded Xavier by 8. The turnovers were the most disappointing stat as the Cajuns had 3 more than their opponent. Still, I think the coaching staff was quite disappointed with the play, particularly in the second half. If you listened to Coach Marlin's post game interview you would think the Cajuns had lost the game. I bet they had lots to go over in practice today.
    Thanks to Mike, the Joe Friday of RP ("just the facts".) I thought the game played out like it did for 2 reasons:

    1) Xavier was better than the typical Xavier NAIA team we normally play. They had some quick guards with a nice touch.

    2) I think Marlin is still experimenting with the lineup, resulting in the Cajuns playing so many players that chemistry was not always present on the court. I was somewhat encouraged that we were able to hit more outside shots as the game progressed. The defense played well for most of the game, but we were slow getting back in transition at times. I was also discouraged that our bigs missed some baskets from fairly close range, but I think this will get cleaned up because they have previously made the same shots in other games.

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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 84, Xavier of LA 72

    Quote Originally Posted by Crawfish View Post
    Thanks to Mike, the Joe Friday of RP ("just the facts".) I thought the game played out like it did for 2 reasons:

    1) Xavier was better than the typical Xavier NAIA team we normally play. They had some quick guards with a nice touch.

    2) I think Marlin is still experimenting with the lineup, resulting in the Cajuns playing so many players that chemistry was not always present on the court. I was somewhat encouraged that we were able to hit more outside shots as the game progressed. The defense played well for most of the game, but we were slow getting back in transition at times. I was also discouraged that our bigs missed some baskets from fairly close range, but I think this will get cleaned up because they have previously made the same shots in other games.
    They will going against a first team all american big guy sunday afternoon so we will find out if they can guard. First real test of the year.

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