FB Final: LA 45, Texas State 00

[CajunVic]

He's not a TE Vic.

Hey, if what was said about his inability to learn the playbook is accurate, he is not a QB at this level or on a BN run team either.

[cajun4life]

OK, I'll weigh here since there are so many folks offering opinions.

If we are able to keep LL2 from tranfering out, I predict he'll be our starter next year. I know the Chandler fans won't agree, but LL2 is a special talent. Check his HS tape on 247 sports if you haven't already. The only thing that may keep him from being QB1 is if Billy isn't comfortable with his grasp of the offense or he's prone to TO's. I do know he came in with a preconceived notion that he would start this season and that's not how you endear yourself to the staff or his teammates, especially with the type of leader LL is on our team. But, I also heard from a couple of coaches that he's made big strides after getting acclimated to the cULture. LL2 is a DUAL threat QB and was rated as the #4 in the country coming out of HS. He's not overly tall, 6'1", but that's 3 inches taller than CF and that does make a big difference throwing form the pocket. If you take a look at the young OL we currently have on the roster and the commits for this season, you're looking at 6'7", 6'8", 6'9". Try throwing over the middle from the pocket when you are 5'10". I'm not talking about long balls over the middle, just the 8-10 yarders that keep the chains moving. Or, how about a slant route where the objective is to throw it low and in front of the receiver. The little I've seen from CF is impressive and he can run it a little too. He's not been in a pressure situation so not sure how he will hold up, but some of you that saw him play in NOLA would have a better handle about that. I don't think our passing game will improve dramatically with another short QB. LL does miss some easy passes from time to time, but he does come up with the goods in pressure sitatuions most times. CF does look like a better passer, but won't scare anyone with his running ability like LL does. So that's the trade off, and if his legs are not a weapon, then you are still stuck with a short QB throwing from the pocket. Some will say Drew Brees was short. Well, Drew Brees was Drew Brees....he's a generational QB and Sean Payton had to create passing lanes for him to be effective. That's why their middle 3 OL had to be stout because pressure up the middle caused beaucoup problems for a short QB. Tom Brady throws it downward over the middle at times....must be nice to be that tall and accurate!

I also like Hunter Herring's size at 6'4" with good running ability, another dual threat. I'd love to see what Ben Wooldridge would do with our receiving corp in a game that counts. I think we have the best group of receivers in our program's history, but Billy likes to run it and control the ball, and that seems to work out pretty well.

I've also heard the we have a commit coming in next year from Madison Prep. Zeon Chriss, another dual threat at 6'1". He'll need to tighten up his throwing mechanics but this is another special talent when running.

So yes, I think Billy is going to look for dual threat QB's going forward because he likes running the ball and they present big problems for opposing defenses. Our defense has had problems with dual threat QB's as well. So, it's better to have several of them on the roster in case of injury. IMO, I don't think CF will be the guy next season.

I’m right there with you. But I think Fields is the guy after a Levi. I think we would be in the same position with Fields at QB this year as we are currently.

Regarding Legendre, IMHO he has the most upside of any QB we’ve had in this program. His talent is off the charts. But when his mechanics break down he isn’t good. I personally would like to see him develop more as a passer and grow and understand the playbook. Much like Fields has had the opportunity to do so.

Ideally I’d like to see our QB situation go as follows.

Fields 2 year starter, graduates and moves on.

Legendre 2 years as the starter.

Herring 2 years as a starter.

I think the QB position should almost always be redshirted. Learn the offense and college game. Expect spot duty and mop up time as a RS Sophomore. Expect to start as a Jr and Sr.

[JMV JustMyView]

I’m right there with you. But I think Fields is the guy after a Levi. I think we would be in the same position with Fields at QB this year as we are currently.

Regarding Legendre, IMHO he has the most upside of any QB we’ve had in this program. His talent is off the charts. But when his mechanics break down he isn’t good. I personally would like to see him develop more as a passer and grow and understand the playbook. Much like Fields has had the opportunity to do so.

Ideally I’d like to see our QB situation go as follows.

Fields 2 year starter, graduates and moves on.

Legendre 2 years as the starter.

Herring 2 years as a starter.

I think the QB position should almost always be redshirted. Learn the offense and college game. Expect spot duty and mop up time as a RS Sophomore. Expect to start as a Jr and Sr.

I saw Herring play against VC. He is a good athlete but his passing needs a lot of work.

[CajunVic]

I saw Herring play against VC. He is a good athlete but his passing needs a lot of work.

I’m not sure we really found out anything about his passing abilities in that game . . . The game plan was for him to just run over everybody.

[MetryCajun]

I’m right there with you. But I think Fields is the guy after a Levi. I think we would be in the same position with Fields at QB this year as we are currently.

Regarding Legendre, IMHO he has the most upside of any QB we’ve had in this program. His talent is off the charts. But when his mechanics break down he isn’t good. I personally would like to see him develop more as a passer and grow and understand the playbook. Much like Fields has had the opportunity to do so.

Ideally I’d like to see our QB situation go as follows.

Fields 2 year starter, graduates and moves on.

Legendre 2 years as the starter.

Herring 2 years as a starter.

I think the QB position should almost always be redshirted. Learn the offense and college game. Expect spot duty and mop up time as a RS Sophomore. Expect to start as a Jr and Sr.

QBs don’t hang around to not play anymore. Whoever is not named the starter after the spring game will most likely leave. I would not be surprised if 2 QBs transfer out for next year.

[SlickRick]

QBs don’t hang around to not play anymore. Whoever is not named the starter after the spring game will most likely leave. I would not be surprised if 2 QBs transfer out for next year.

I didn't get into this subject earlier, but you are spot on. I had the opportunity to talke to CBN in August and said, "what are you going to do with 8 QBs on the roster?". He replied, and I'm paraphasing, "this portal option means you need more of them, just in case". I know CF is in his 3rd season and if he doesn't win the job, he'll be down the road with my guess being SE or Nichols....or if they don't have to sit going to another FBS school, likley to one of the schools who recruited him in HS. LL2 had 24 D1 offers, 4 from the SEC including Bama and Georgia. Dude will skate if he's not QB1, and he will have multiple options for his choosing.

[CajunVic]

I didn't get into this subject earlier, but you are spot on. I had the opportunity to talke to CBN in August and said, "what are you going to do with 8 QBs on the roster?". He replied, and I'm paraphasing, "this portal option8 means you need more of them, just in case". I know CF is in his 3rd season and if he doesn't win the job, he'll be down the road with my guess being SE or Nichols....or if they don't have to sit going to another FBS school, likley to one of the schools who recruited him in HS. LL2 had 24 D1 offers, 4 from the SEC including Bama and Georgia. Dude will skate if he's not QB1, and he will have multiple options for his choosing.

If LL2 is that good and he is not the starter here because he can’t learn the playbook, I have news for you, he is not transferring after the fall and learning the playbook anywhere else in time to play in the fall.

[SlickRick]

If LL2 is that good and he is not the starter here because he can’t learn the playbook, I have news for you, he is not transferring after the fall and learning the playbook anywhere else in time to play in the fall.

You are making assumptions and you know what that means when wrong.

I have some news for you....Billy wasn't going to start anyone else this season but Levi. If LL had caused us to lose games, then you see changes and it would have been CF first up after LL. Billy is a loyal dude, even possibly too loyal in some ways. Coaches can be that way when they invest themselves with developing players, especially the QB position. After CF it would have been Wooldridge before LL2. Wooldridge was doing well in practice based on a couple of coaches I spoke to in August. One of them a former QB so he probably knew what he was talking about.

As I stated earlier, LL2 came in with an attitude and needed time to adjust to the cULture. I don't know who is telling you he can't learn the playbook, it's not from me....and those 24 schools didn't have a problem offering him a scholly to play QB. He started several games for Maryland last year but was beat out by Tua's brother....who is supposedly better than Tua. That's why he hit the portal.

And Vic, I agree with you saying he would have a hard time transferring out after this fall and having to learn a new offense in time to start next fall. That's why I hope we can keep him here, but there will be some movement within our QB ranks...Billy planned for that.

[Cajunrunner]

This above is the kind of QB discussion I've been hoping to find eventually on here. This was actually very informative for me, because I knew little to nothing about Fields or LL2 prior to them arriving on campus.

What C4L laid out above, I agree, would be ideal in a QB plan, but like Rick has pointed out, not sure if those athletes these days are going to sit and wait with the portal available. Bummer, because it would give time to groom guys, but this is the current situation college coaches find themselves in these days. Look at all the players we've been getting in the portal for softball.

[cajun4life]

This above is the kind of QB discussion I've been hoping to find eventually on here. This was actually very informative for me, because I knew little to nothing about Fields or LL2 prior to them arriving on campus.

What C4L laid out above, I agree, would be ideal in a QB plan, but like Rick has pointed out, not sure if those athletes these days are going to sit and wait with the portal available. Bummer, because it would give time to groom guys, but this is the current situation college coaches find themselves in these days. Look at all the players we've been getting in the portal for softball.

I know what I posted isn’t what will happen. That’s just what I’d like to see. A QB who comes in, learns the system. Has three years to develop, improve and adjust to the speed of the game. So when he is called upon to be the starter it is a seamless transition.