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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman66 View Post
    I agree to a point. I will use a sales analogy. A sales person has a quota, he is meeting the quota or exceeding by a bit, but everyone in the world knows that there is a lot more revenue opportunity in the territory, IF the sales person executed better. In my experience at three Fortune 250 companies in sales, is that particular sales person will not be reassigned or fired, unless his manager is absolutely sure whoever replaces him will do better.

    What I know everyone will have an opinion on is what is LL's quota in starting QB terms. I don't have a good answer for that. But I do know the answer of what Napier's quota is and that is winning games.
    Won’t disagree with any of those points

  2. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    It is interesting that almost each and every analysis provided with respect to Levi results in a conclusion that he should unequivocally be the starting QB for Louisiana. So it is not a coincidence that the Head Coach feels the same way.
    Unequivocally is a stronger term than I feel or would use. I believe it is riskier to start someone other than Levi right now, that is all.

    Vic, I get your point of view. You are going to support whomever starts at QB for the Ragin' Cajuns, regardless of the name on the back of the jersey. You trust Napier's judgement from what he is seeing in practice, on film and in games that he is the best option for Louisiana to win games. I agree with all those points.

    I think it is a fair statement that the offense, in general, and Levi in particular has not performed up to capabilities and/or expectations this season, but even through those struggles we are still winning.

    For me, I really don't mind winning ugly, and it has been winning REALLY UGLY this season, as long as we are winning. For the most part, that has been the formula the last 2.5 seasons with this team. In the last 2.5 seasons, we have won 25 games, which is OUTSTANDING, but we can probably count on one hand how many were pretty wins. The Iowa State game was a HUGE win, but it sure wasn't pretty.

    I fully support Napier and Levi, and want them to win every game. I think everyone that bleeds Vermilion and White agree with that statement. What everyone doesn't believe is that Levi is the QB to win the rest of the games this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    That's fair.

    I know I place a higher value on not throwing interceptions than most do.
    I suspect the answer is a curve, highly dependent upon whether the INTs are a function of poor decisions or aggressive play (or the ratio of same). So therefore dependent upon the QB and different for each.

    I could play 100% conservatively (from an INT perspective) and run every down. Zero INTs. Or I could play 100% recklessly and throw every down, into double coverage etc and throw a ton of picks. Somewhere in between is the sweet spot where I am aggressive enough to maximize scoring while tolerating some INTs. (And minimizing negative affects on actually winning the game).

    The question for Lewis, is “are we too close to the conservative end of the curve to maximize scoring”? The goal of the offense is maximum score, not minimize INTs. And it is NOT axiomatic that minimum INTs means maximum score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    The goal of the game is maximum score, not minimize INTs
    I really appreciate that point.

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    We play to win the game. That is the goal - to win the game. Nothing else really matters. We play to win the game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    We play to win the game. That is the goal - to win the game. Nothing else really matters. We play to win the game.
    True. Point taken. Which complicates the question further. Edited to account.

    Would you agree that minimizing INTs at all costs does not necessarily mean maximizing win chances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    I suspect the answer is a curve, highly dependent upon whether the INTs are a function of poor decisions or aggressive play (or the ratio of same). So therefore dependent upon the QB and different for each.

    I could play 100% conservatively (from an INT perspective) and run every down. Zero INTs. Or I could play 100% recklessly and throw every down, into double coverage etc and throw a ton of picks. Somewhere in between is the sweet spot where I am aggressive enough to maximize scoring while tolerating some INTs. (And minimizing negative affects on actually winning the game).

    The question for Lewis, is “are we too close to the conservative end of the curve to maximize scoring”? The goal of the offense is maximum score, not minimize INTs. And it is NOT axiomatic that minimum INTs means maximum score.
    The goal of the office is not just to maximize scores. To give a ridiculous example to make my point, if the Offense scored every other time they got possession of the ball, but on alternate possessions threw a pick six, that would not be good. So it is something more than maximizing score. It seems to me that is maximizing score without giving your opponent a chance to score off of Offensive mistakes. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    True. Point taken. Which complicates the question further. Edited to account.

    Would you agree that minimizing INTs at all costs does not necessarily mean maximizing win chances?
    I would agree, however who said that we are minimizing INTs at any cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    I would agree, however who said that we are minimizing INTs at any cost?
    Turbine’s stat from the OP would suggest that would be the course. My point is it’s much more complicated than that and really comes down to what risk level maximizes scoring or as you accurately pointed out, maximizes winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    Turbine’s stat from the OP would suggest that would be the course. My point is it’s much more complicated than that and really comes down to what risk level maximizes scoring or as you accurately pointed out, maximizes winning.
    I'm suggesting in my Opening Post that the average interception has a regressive value and I'm trying to find that value by throwing out a hard number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I'm suggesting in my Opening Post that the average interception has a regressive value and I'm trying to find that value by throwing out a hard number.
    And I believe there are way too many variables to come up with a number that is meaningful.

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    There is a football phrase "He's throwing the game away."


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