Make it.....Take it

[RaginDave]

Jay your post brings up a good point. Stats like that usually don’t make the paper.

As is almost always true, the most polarizing topics are topics that have opposing sides with equally legitimate gripes. Pro-Levi Coalition (We’ll call them PLC) can’t stand when the Anti-Levi Coalition (ALC, obvi) points out his flaws and vice-versa.

Both the PLC and the ALC are correct; and they’re both wrong, at the same time. We somehow have arrived at a place where even discussing his play on the field (no anything else, including LL the person) has become taboo. But I’m a fan, like the rest of you. QB happens to be an important part of our success or failure. I think most his detractors are just describing what they see on the field and projecting forward with regard to how we’ll be able to perform against upper echelon teams in our schedule. Very rarely, if ever, do I see anyone from the ALC or otherwise speak negatively about LL the human. (Which again, makes me even more perplexed as to why people take this so personally.)

The PLC are usually people that have been through some dark days of Cajun football and appreciate even having a capable QB leading this program.

When it’s all over, Levi will rewrite our history books. And that’s a wonderful thing. But the PLC needs to understand that most football fans (the ones that attend games, keep the conversation going, buy concessions and apparel, pay to park, give to private funding arms) really care about what’s next and what can we accomplish. That’s what really drives the football crazy fans. And within that context, watching the games based on process and not result, you can see why people question Levi’s decisions. Billy’s plan. The offense as a whole. It is very baffling at times.

As I said, I am in the PLC group, but can understand some of the frustration with the QB play/offense at times. My point is just it can always be worse and we can see worse very close to us in our own conference. Levi plays nearly every offensive snap of every football game and traditionally makes 1 or 2 mistakes, that is to be expected. The only 2 "mistakes" vs Ohio that I saw after rewatching the game was the intention grounding and then the interception. The unfortunate thin is that those were glaring mistakes. I know people want to see Levi throw more down the field or even slant routes over the middle and that argument can be made.

But Napier is playing to Levi's strength and that is getting him outside the pocket and throwing on the move. Levi does throw a very nice deep ball, where I think Levi struggles is making the decision when he is under pressure to throw or run and he needs to make the decision to run more often then trying to force something. He did not see the Ohio player when he threw the interception, he saw an open receiver and missed the Ohio guy that was sitting in the zone waiting to make a play.

[HoustonCajun]

But Napier is playing to Levi's strength and that is getting him outside the pocket and throwing on the move. Levi does throw a very nice deep ball, where I think Levi struggles is making the decision when he is under pressure to throw or run and he needs to make the decision to run more often then trying to force something. He did not see the Ohio player when he threw the interception, he saw an open receiver and missed the Ohio guy that was sitting in the zone waiting to make a play.

And that is the concern, at least for me. Napier didn't play to Levi's strength vs. Texas. Had he done that against Texas, no telling how the game would have ended. Yet, he just sat in the pocket and couldn't find receivers down field. When he gets outside the pocket and throwing on the move or running, he is at his best and we win, a lot.

[RaginDave]

But Napier is playing to Levi's strength and that is getting him outside the pocket and throwing on the move. Levi does throw a very nice deep ball, where I think Levi struggles is making the decision when he is under pressure to throw or run and he needs to make the decision to run more often then trying to force something. He did not see the Ohio player when he threw the interception, he saw an open receiver and missed the Ohio guy that was sitting in the zone waiting to make a play.

And that is the concern, at least for me. Napier didn't play to Levi's strength vs. Texas. Had he done that against Texas, no telling how the game would have ended. Yet, he just sat in the pocket and couldn't find receivers down field. When he gets outside the pocket and throwing on the move or running, he is at his best and we win, a lot.

agreed to all points.

[RaginDave]

But Napier is playing to Levi's strength and that is getting him outside the pocket and throwing on the move. Levi does throw a very nice deep ball, where I think Levi struggles is making the decision when he is under pressure to throw or run and he needs to make the decision to run more often then trying to force something. He did not see the Ohio player when he threw the interception, he saw an open receiver and missed the Ohio guy that was sitting in the zone waiting to make a play.

And that is the concern, at least for me. Napier didn't play to Levi's strength vs. Texas. Had he done that against Texas, no telling how the game would have ended. Yet, he just sat in the pocket and couldn't find receivers down field. When he gets outside the pocket and throwing on the move or running, he is at his best and we win, a lot.

My personal opinion is that allot of that has to do with his height. I think Levi plays better when he can see down the field, by getting him outside the pocket he can look down the field and see open players, when he is in the pocket he has a hard time seeing over the OL and DL and I think that is why he struggles to hit open receivers on slants. He is better outside the pocket and throwing into the flat and/or down the field. I truly believe if he were 6'1 + this would be less of a concern. He can get away with it a little more vs SBC and G5 opponents because they don't have the athletes that teams like Texas does. But even then he is much better on the move outside the pocket.

[ULvictory]

The last two posts basically sum up what I have been saying countless times around here: Levi Lewis is a scrambling quarterback who does wonders on the rollout. He is not a pocket passer. He will never be a pocket passer. That is not the type of quarterback he is.

When defenses stack the box and force him to stay in the pocket, that is when we see some of his flaws. Granted, his scrambling ability, he short passes inside of 20 yards, and his leadership abilities outweigh the cons.

But this "back and forth" of fans' opinions of Levi is just odd. He's not perfect. But he's also not the worst QB ever.

[CrazyCajun]

My personal opinion is that allot of that has to do with his height. I think Levi plays better when he can see down the field, by getting him outside the pocket he can look down the field and see open players, when he is in the pocket he has a hard time seeing over the OL and DL and I think that is why he struggles to hit open receivers on slants. He is better outside the pocket and throwing into the flat and/or down the field. I truly believe if he were 6'1 + this would be less of a concern. He can get away with it a little more vs SBC and G5 opponents because they don't have the athletes that teams like Texas does. But even then he is much better on the move outside the pocket.

I’ve said it more than once, if Levi was 6’1” we wouldn’t have gotten him here, certainly not in 2017

[Cajun Soldier]

I see you have chosen violence today. Winning stats is for coaching not QB. He is the most senior QB is the leauge and is rated 4th in QBR & EPA. Also that last drive before half Montrell has 54 yards and a td Lewis 25 yards total...yes all hail LL greatest QB ever.

Against Nicholls we went cold midway through the second quater did not score another offensive TD.

Texas we had 1 first half 3rd down conversion and not another until the end of the 3rd


I'm Scott Malkinson and I have diabetes

I won't let the LL lovers bait me in today but I agree with you 100%. Can't understand why jay would try to bring this up in the NFL he'd be flagged for taunting.

[Million$Mullet]

If I’m not mistaken, Jay said that only 3 UL QBs have ever made him say wow and Levi was one of them. I’ve said wow many times when Levi has escaped sacks for loss. I’ve also said wow many times when he eluded sacks but kept running backwards and in circles instead of taking off down the field. That’s my only gripe with him. Sure some of his passes aren’t great but nobody is perfect. You take the good with the bad. I wish he would make us all say wow by taking off down the field when his first and second read isn’t there. He’s amazing when he runs. He just needs to do it more.

[R1Letterman]

is make it take it, different than a double dip?

[RaginDave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azBsJHpw5mQ

Anti and Pro Levi people, watch this 2020 highlight real of LL. If you watch it you will see that the majority of his successful passes and run are either in a completely clean pocket and/or when is out on the edge. Rarely do you see him successful when he is standing in the pocket with people around him. Even when he does, it was because the OL blocked open the pocket, meaning they blocked people to the outside and left the pocket completely clean for him to see. This is what I am talking about with Levi and his strengths.

[JayWalker]

is make it take it, different than a double dip?

Nah. Same thing, different terminology

[JayWalker]

I won't let the LL lovers bait me in today but I agree with you 100%. Can't understand why jay would try to bring this up in the NFL he'd be flagged for taunting.

Are you out of your mind?

Why would I bring this up? Do you understand how unbelievable that statistic is?

I guarantee you it's something this program has never accomplished before or may again.

In fact, I'll be willing to bet the majority of schools in America have never had a stat like that.

Why can't that be celebrated by everyone????????