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  1. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Actually it was just more than 50%.

    I do agree part of the issue this past season was the lack of alpha males and I said that on this forum within a week after the season ended. I used the terms "water hose guys" vs. "powerade guys."

    But that wasn't the only issue, in my opinion.

    I think we've made a mistake in where these guys come from. I say that because you can't be from Minnesota, Arizona or the midwest and have a clue about what it's like to be a Ragin' Cajun.

    Look at the transfer portal. How many players that played for Louisiana are from Louisiana, Texas or Mississippi? That would be ONE.

    That is not to say we should never take a player from outside the area. Connor Kimple has worked out and he's from Wisconsin. Robertson is from Alabama and Schultz from OKC.

    We need guys who will not only play for the name across the chest, but also know what that name is all about. I believe we've erred in that regard. Now, I do not have the list of signees for next year and some of those guys signed early. But I'm willing to bet you from here on out we look closer to home before we decide to bring guys in.

    And, I'll agree with something said on this board recently. If you don't want to be a Cajun, or even if you aren't sure you want to be, then you need to leave.

    I'm okay with all the names on the portal list. They either weren't good enough, were soft or were unsure of whether they were 100% committed.

    We will replace those guys.
    Thank you, Jay.

    And I agree.

  2. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Yes, the answer is to turn over the roster every year. Get rid of the softies! 35 __ players and they’re all useless softies!

    JFC it’s amazing what some of you will make yourselves believe..
    I understand that you have spoken to some of the players from this year's team, I have not. I have spoken to 3 former members of the 2014 team, and to the man they have said exactly what Jay just posted on this thread. This team had no alpha males on it period. I've been around sports long enough in my life to understand that developing that type of attitude comes along with winning and having the confidence that you can compete against anyone regardless of the stage. And it's no coincidence that some of those players played together on a team that played in the Little League World Series. We had no such players on this year's team.

    Now, I do believe the staff bares some responsibility in bringing in athletes that did not fit that culture and not developing some of them. Most of the athletes leaving were signed from JC, or other transfers. They gambled and it didn't pay off. That in itself is not an indictment of the entire staff and their body of work together as a staff. Even in this year's disappointment the team won 32 games and win their division.

    You say that it's amazing what some of us make ourselves believe. You have already decided this staff will not get it done and that is your right as a supporter. I've chosen to give this staff an opportunity to rebuild this program and I don't think 1.5 years is enough time to fairly evaluate them. I don't come to that conclusion on my own, I've spoke to Deggs and former players from the 2014 team and these are people that have actually accomplished something, and know what it takes to get the job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I understand that you have spoken to some of the players from this year's team, I have not. I have spoken to 3 former members of the 2014 team, and to the man they have said exactly what Jay just posted on this thread. This team had no alpha males on it period. I've been around sports long enough in my life to understand that developing that type of attitude comes along with winning and having the confidence that you can compete against anyone regardless of the stage. And it's no coincidence that some of those players played together on a team that played in the Little League World Series. We had no such players on this year's team.

    Now, I do believe the staff bares some responsibility in bringing in athletes that did not fit that culture and not developing some of them. Most of the athletes leaving were signed from JC, or other transfers. They gambled and it didn't pay off. That in itself is not an indictment of the entire staff and their body of work together as a staff. Even in this year's disappointment
    And I’m not discounting any of that. I believe what Jay posted is certainly part of it. But both can be true.

    The staff we have is not building relationships. They’re not building trust. There is not an environment in the clubhouse where guys can be honest with coaches. Players are largely kept in the dark. There is NO reason why pitchers were finding out literally the day before games that they would be starting.

    You cant build a program around the pack mentality when you’re lording over guys and micromanaging every move they make. That’s destructive. (We’ve seen JT do that crap for 6 years now.) When your players observe their coach getting more satisfaction out of public speaking and pushing book sales than success on the diamond, that’s a problem. The players think the HC is FOS. And I got that from “Deggs guys”, not the players some here would call “softies.” When you bring up coaches and the immediate response is hard eye roll, you have a major issue.

  4. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    And I’m not discounting any of that. I believe what Jay posted is certainly part of it. But both can be true.

    The staff we have is not building relationships. They’re not building trust. There is not an environment in the clubhouse where guys can be honest with coaches. Players are largely kept in the dark. There is NO reason why pitchers were finding out literally the day before games that they would be starting.

    You cant build a program around the pack mentality when you’re lording over guys and micromanaging every move they make. That’s destructive. (We’ve seen JT do that crap for 6 years now.) When your players observe their coach getting more satisfaction out of public speaking and pushing book sales than success on the diamond, that’s a problem. The players think the HC is FOS. And I got that from “Deggs guys”, not the players some here would call “softies.” When you bring up coaches and the immediate response is hard eye roll, you have a major issue.
    While all of this may be 100% correct, do you think it was appropriate to plaster this all over the Louisiana message boards when it happened?

    Did doing that serve to increase or decrease our chances of winning the conference tournament and moving to a post season regional.

    Would that have been better handled here after the season if the interest of the team’s success was the goal?
    CajunVic

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    While all of this may be 100% correct, do you think it was appropriate to plaster this all over the Louisiana message boards when it happened?

    Did doing that serve to increase or decrease our chances of winning the conference tournament and moving to a post season regional.

    Would that have been better handled here after the season if the interest to the team’s success was the goal?
    Nothing any of us discuss here has any baring on the success or lack of success across any sport.

  6. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Nothing any of us discuss here has any baring on the success or lack of success across any sport.
    We will agree to disagree on that subject.

    We all know and agree that coaches and players should never visit these boards, however human nature would tell you that they do.

    A coach reading these boards that sees that his players are divulging what is supposed to be confidential locker room information or disparaging the coach and coaching staff publicly would certainly be inclined to treat such players differently than if such was not known. Again, human nature.

    I challenge anyone on here that does coach to give their thoughts on how they would treat such a situation.

    This ought to be an interesting board conversation.
    CajunVic

  7. #112

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    Not only should players and coaches not look at these boards, neither should family members. People in the program can make better use of their time by focusing on how to improve. Family members are likely to get offended by some comments. Now administrators should at least be aware of what is being posted here. Message boards are a good way to gauge what the fan base is concerned with. Occasionally, a good promotional idea is also provided.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    We will agree to disagree on that subject.

    We all know and agree that coaches and players should never visit these boards, however human nature would tell you that they do.

    A coach reading these boards that sees that his players are divulging what is supposed to be confidential locker room information or disparaging the coach and coaching staff publicly would certainly be inclined to treat such players differently than if such was not known. Again, human nature.

    I challenge anyone on here that does coach to give their thoughts on how they would treat such a situation.

    This ought to be an interesting board conversation.
    Every player or coach I’ve ever asked about RP was either active here or read it often. Every one.

    As far as my comments during the season: I never specifically repeated anything nor did I say names. I never have, in a decade+ of posting.

    I knew the coaches would read what I wrote. That’s why I wrote it. Again, I don’t want the restaurant closed down. I want the chef to fix the food so that I can continue to visit his restaurant. As a customer, I’m just providing feed back.

  9. #114

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    The players are playing for the name on the back of the jersey instead of what’s on the front. JT is a problem.

    Jay is spot on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The players are playing for the name on the back of the jersey instead of what’s on the front. JT is a problem.

    Jay is spot on.
    Agreed. But when you don’t trust the coaches, you can’t “buy in.” And that’s why, I think, they’re playing for themselves.

  11. #116

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    They players that were chosen to be on this roster and the roster is the responsibility of the coaches. That being said, there were only three or four players on this roster that could both hit AND play defense CONSISTENTLY.

    That being said, who on here believes they can find a coach that could put together a consistent lineup with that roster?

    As posted earlier, even Corbin was tweaking the lineup card in the CWS with only 4 teams left playing - imagine what that means for a coach with a roster like the Cajuns had this year.

    This roster was a recipe for disaster for our coaching staff. Hopefully this regroup will produce a better roster across the board.

    CajunVic

  12. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Every player or coach I’ve ever asked about RP was either active here or read it often. Every one.

    As far as my comments during the season: I never specifically repeated anything nor did I say names. I never have, in a decade+ of posting.

    I knew the coaches would read what I wrote. That’s why I wrote it. Again, I don’t want the restaurant closed down. I want the chef to fix the food so that I can continue to visit his restaurant. As a customer, I’m just providing feed back.
    …….to add to your timely metaphor……are we getting correct and fresh ingredients and are the chefs performing the right temps and doing it at the prescribed order and time! We hot dog and roasted peanut guys remember that as sufficient to keep the crowds coming to watch Ws!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    They players that were chosen to be on this roster and the roster is the responsibility of the coaches. That being said, there were only three or four players on this roster that could both hit AND play defense CONSISTENTLY.

    That being said, who on here believes they can find a coach that could put together a consistent lineup with that roster?

    As posted earlier, even Corbin was tweaking the lineup card in the CWS with only 4 teams left playing - imagine what that means for a coach with a roster like the Cajuns had this year.

    This roster was a recipe for disaster for our coaching staff. Hopefully this regroup will produce a better roster across the board.
    Your point is well taken. I don’t think it’s uncommon to “tweak” your lineup throughout the season. But there is a big difference between lineup tweaks and staring dudes in positions they’ve never in their lives attempted to play or wholesale changes in the middle of a series that you’re winning.

  14. #119
    fanof71 is online now Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    I had my butt skewered earlier this season when I posted the question if Deggs was the right hire...didnt say he wasn't the right hire, only asked if he was the right hire. So, was he the right man for the job?


  15. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    I had my butt skewered earlier this season when I posted the question if Deggs was the right hire...didnt say he wasn't the right hire, only asked if he was the right hire. So, was he the right man for the job?
    Get that skewer ready.
    CajunVic

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