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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I think quite the opposite.

    Marlin makes every player he coaches better.

    His weakness in my opinion is he doesn't turn these better players into a "team."
    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I suspect Dalcourt will be asked to fill the role Butts played of providing quick scoring off the bench. I agree Julien will move to the 3 spot vs the 4. My predicted starting lineup is Russell, Williams, Julien, Brown, and Awkuba. This assumes Brown is eligible and Dou Gueye does not come back. I don't know what the status of Gueye potentially coming back is. I tend to think he won't return considering his age but I did not think Russell would return either so what do I know. By the way I saw a tweet from Kobe Julien to the effect it is will be good to have the band back together again. That occurred right when the Dalcourt news broke. Some take that to mean that Julien, Williams, and Dalcourt played AAU ball together at one point. I don't know if that is true but it would make sense.
    Without spending a bunch of time going back and researching Dalcourt, can you tell me what kind of shooter he is? We need shooting in a big way since Marlin is married to this 3 ball or layup philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    If Marlin can't blow up the SBC with this sort of talent, he deserves to get canned...
    I don't think Marlin can F#$^ this up!

    However, if we go one and done NCAA, he needs to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Like anything else, there is good and bad in the player development aspect. Guys like Brian Mbamalu and Kasey Shepherd improved in their time here. As frustrating as Dou Gueye was with his decision making, he was actually much better with that last season than the year before. Frank Bartley, Jonathon Stove, and Bryce Washington also improved as their careers progressed. This past season, Theo Awkuba showed much more here than he ever did at Portland. On the negative side, Jalen Johnson probably regressed from his years at St. Louis in the one year he played here. Shawn Long was a good player for us but his last 2 years were very similar to his first two. Justin Miller and Jerekus Davis were pretty much the same players their entire career here. You could say the same for Heyward Register. Mixed bag from player development aspect.
    I still have trouble deciding if its a development issue or just an inability to put the current set of players in a position to play their best. My biggest criticism of Marlin, besides his ability to recruit and keep players, has been his ability to devise a system that fits his -talent. I think the only year he truly did this was the 17-18 season. With a true PG who could control the ball, we used Bartley and Stove to the best of their abilities and our offense was much more efficient than it is now. Fast forward to now that Marlin has adopted this 3 ball or layup philosophy, I don't feel we really have the personnel to do this and it showed in our inconsistency on offense this past season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Without spending a bunch of time going back and researching Dalcourt, can you tell me what kind of shooter he is? We need shooting in a big way since Marlin is married to this 3 ball or layup philosophy.
    Dalcourt is a pretty good 3 point shooter as he shot 35.4% from 3 point land, the problem is he only shot 36.2% overall, which tells me he may have made some poor decisions when he did not have a wide open 3 point shot. He also we pretty at FT as he shot 73.7% from the line with 19 attempts in 15 games. In JUCO at Iowa Western he shot 37% from 3 and 40.2% overall.

    Dalcourt is a very athletic guy as he ran track in HS and competed in the High Jump, so he should have pretty good hops.

    I am not sure why he only played in 15 games last season. SJSU played a total of 21 games, so he missed 6 of their games. He did not play any games in December, so I am not sure if it was injury related or if it was eligibility issues or something else.

    He should help the Cajuns, similarly to how Devin Butts played, but hopefully more consistent. In fact their stats last year were very similar. He is not as tall as Butts as Butts was listed at 6'6", although he did not look 6'6, Dalcourt is listed at 6'2.

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    The fear I have with at least 2 of 3 of these guys are they are well traveled. Dalcourt played 1 season at Tallahassee CC,then transferred to Iowa Western, then on to San Jose State and now to UL. Jordan Brown started his career at Nevada, then to Arizona now to UL.

    Hopefully they both will settle in and be here for the rest of their college careers.

    I am actually somewhat excited about the product we might see next year on the court. Now let's hope that as someone stated before we get a freebee with Cedric coming back and maybe he could convince Dou Gueye to come back as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    The fear I have with at least 2 of 3 of these guys are they are well traveled. Dalcourt played 1 season at Tallahassee CC,then transferred to Iowa Western, then on to San Jose State and now to UL. Jordan Brown started his career at Nevada, then to Arizona now to UL.

    Hopefully they both will settle in and be here for the rest of their college careers.

    I am actually somewhat excited about the product we might see next year on the court. Now let's hope that as someone stated before we get a freebee with Cedric coming back and maybe he could convince Dou Gueye to come back as well.
    I am torn on Guye. I like his size and athleticism but he makes poor decisions and turns the ball over WAY too much. As a team we struggled with that but he really cost us at times and the other things he does well may not do enough to make up for it. With Brown at that spot next year (hopefully) and Richards developing, I'd rather take on a good wing player or shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    The fear I have with at least 2 of 3 of these guys are they are well traveled. Dalcourt played 1 season at Tallahassee CC,then transferred to Iowa Western, then on to San Jose State and now to UL. Jordan Brown started his career at Nevada, then to Arizona now to UL.

    Hopefully they both will settle in and be here for the rest of their college careers.

    I am actually somewhat excited about the product we might see next year on the court. Now let's hope that as someone stated before we get a freebee with Cedric coming back and maybe he could convince Dou Gueye to come back as well.
    i felt that way about Jordan Brown also, but upon review, he left Nevada after his coach left and he is leaving Arizona after their coach was sent packing; so I have hopes for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I am torn on Guye. I like his size and athleticism but he makes poor decisions and turns the ball over WAY too much. As a team we struggled with that but he really cost us at times and the other things he does well may not do enough to make up for it. With Brown at that spot next year (hopefully) and Richards developing, I'd rather take on a good wing player or shooter.
    I felt Dou Gueye made a big jump from his first year to the second here. If he could show that same improvement he would be/could be a really valuable asset to the team, IMO.

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    We are full as of now. If Gueye decided to return he would not count against the scholarship limit but if he doesn’t it is not like they could take a wing or shooter in his place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantvb View Post
    Sounds like Herb Brooks’ comments in the Movie, “Miracle”. ....All-Star teams fail because they rely solely on the I individual’s talent. The Soviets (substitute in GOOD Coaching) win because they take that talent, and use it in a system that’s for the betterment of the TEAM.
    So out of the 1600+ players in the portal, how many are team first guys?

    Now we will see across the entire D1 landscape who can put a TEAM together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Dalcourt is a pretty good 3 point shooter as he shot 35.4% from 3 point land, the problem is he only shot 36.2% overall, which tells me he may have made some poor decisions when he did not have a wide open 3 point shot. He also we pretty at FT as he shot 73.7% from the line with 19 attempts in 15 games. In JUCO at Iowa Western he shot 37% from 3 and 40.2% overall.

    Dalcourt is a very athletic guy as he ran track in HS and competed in the High Jump, so he should have pretty good hops.

    I am not sure why he only played in 15 games last season. SJSU played a total of 21 games, so he missed 6 of their games. He did not play any games in December, so I am not sure if it was injury related or if it was eligibility issues or something else.

    He should help the Cajuns, similarly to how Devin Butts played, but hopefully more consistent. In fact their stats last year were very similar. He is not as tall as Butts as Butts was listed at 6'6", although he did not look 6'6, Dalcourt is listed at 6'2.
    Dalcourt played the last 15 games of the season for San Jose and none prior to January. Makes me wonder if he was not eligible till then. Regarding his shooting percentages, he shot 50 percent on two pointers in his 15 games. Reason that did not improve his overall percentage much is that the great majority of shots he took were three pointers, similar to what Devin Butts did here last so season so it is a good comparison. As far as being a frequent mover of schools, I don't think that is a concern now as you are only allowed one transfer without having to sit out a year. This is Brown's second transfer. Therefore small likelihood he does it again as well. Greg Williams Jr is also unlikely to move again as that would be a second transfer for an upperclassmen. With the free year given to players last season, it is possible the only player who moves on after next season is Cedric Russell. Granted that is highly unlikely today. It is almost certain a player will want to move on or get on with real life. Also common for staff to conclude a player would be better off elsewhere.

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