Burnt Roux: Mylik Wilson Portals to Texas Tech

[Hatch]

First of all, many leave their programs when coaching changes occur or they feel they can go play at a bigger school which is understandable. You don't expect guys to leave a program that Marlin believes is the best in the league, where he is the top player on the team and the coach is going nowhere.

And we're not just talking about players leaving on their own accord when we talk about retention. The criticism for Marlin is that he moves so many guys in and out of his program as well. He recruits kids and then discards them when he feels he can get someone else better. There's either a problem with his recruiting skills or he isn't going to generate much trust in incoming guys.

In a radio interview with Brock Morris around this time last year he said that in the current landscape they are now looking to build a team yearly instead of a program. He also said that with scholarships 1-10 they look to build a starting 5 and bench and that scholarships 11-13 they are looking for guys that are more of projects with the potential to develop. Now due to injuries the past few years we have seen more of those 11-13 guys playing than they would probably like. I still say besides Wilson and Johnson every other transfer in the last 7-8 years would have either been in that 11-13 range or a disciplinary issue.

By the way here is the current Sun Belt breakdown of players in the portal this year.

South Al 9
Texas St 7
UTA 7
Ga Sou 5
ULM 5
LR 4
Troy 4
Coastal Car 4
App St 3
UL 2
Ga St 2
Ark St 0

There will probably be 1,500 players in the portal by the end of the day (1,496 as of now). Roughly 40% of D-1 schools have at least 5 players in the portal.

[CajunAmos]

I guess we should be grateful that it's only a one time transfer waiver without having to sit out a year, unless you are a grad transfer.

[RaginDave]

Players won't leave a successful program. We have been mediocre for years now

This is not a true statement, the new transfer rule is getting everyone.

https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Ba...ransferPortal/

Look at the quality of player and quality of teams with players in the portal this year. Just a quick search includes the following without going to deep.

Kansas
Indiana
Kentucky
Illinois
Texas Tech
Memphis
Iowa State
Duke
Oklahoma
Stanford
Virginia
Texas A&M
Marquette
Florida
Oregon

All of these guys are 4 and 5 star players. It is affecting everyone. Their are 173 Guards in the portal, 150 Forwards and 27 Centers, that is a total of 350+ players already in the portal and I am sure more to come. Their are 348 D-1 Basketball teams, so that is an average of at least 1 per team transferring out. NCAA Champion Baylor has a 4 star transferring out, he is a 6'10" Junior that 2 years ago averaged 14.6 points per game. App state who won the SBC tournament ha 3 players in the portal

[Hatch]

This is not a true statement, the new transfer rule is getting everyone.

https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Ba...ransferPortal/

Look at the quality of player and quality of teams with players in the portal this year. Just a quick search includes the following without going to deep.

Kansas
Indiana
Kentucky
Illinois
Texas Tech
Memphis
Iowa State
Duke
Oklahoma
Stanford
Virginia
Texas A&M
Marquette
Florida
Oregon

All of these guys are 4 and 5 star players. It is affecting everyone. Their are 173 Guards in the portal, 150 Forwards and 27 Centers, that is a total of 350+ players already in the portal and I am sure more to come. Their are 348 D-1 Basketball teams, so that is an average of at least 1 per team transferring out. NCAA Champion Baylor has a 4 star transferring out, he is a 6'10" Junior that 2 years ago averaged 14.6 points per game. App state who won the SBC tournament ha 3 players in the portal

247 doesn't have everyone listed, verbal commits does a much better job of tracking the portal. Take a look at my numbers above, they are actually much higher. They do list walk ons as well, so that skews the numbers a bit. If you go back a few years you will see guys like Eli Mouton and Jordan Adebutu listed for UL.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021

[moorecajun]

This one time transfer rule will probably change the way teams recruit; I don't see how you can spend as much time recruiting and trying to build with high school players anymore.

Every year will be a different scenario so you can't really plan on anything long term. The best thing we can probably do is pick up some of these transfers every year because they would not be that likely to transfer out since they used up their one-time transfer.

This rule will really change the landscape of college recruiting; we'll see if it is good or bad.

[Turbine]

It may take a dozen years or so, perhaps a little longer, but if one and done teams become the norm, it will be the death knell for college sports.

At the very least the connection that four years of accumulated experiences built will be voided.

If students are denied the opportunity to develop a base knowledge of the teams while they were in school, the victim will be post graduate support from alumni.

[ZoomZoom]

It may take a dozen years or so, perhaps a little longer, but if one and done teams become the norm, it will be the death knell for college sports.

At the very least the connection that four years of accumulated experiences built will be voided.

If students are denied the opportunity to develop a base knowledge of the teams while they were in school, the victim will be post graduate support from alumni.

The opening of the portal makes the ESPN blow to college basketball look like chump change. This hurts everyone except for a minute few teams.

Won’t be long until an elite group of one and done players band together making themselves available to the highest bidder for a shot at an NCAA title.

[SlickRick]

The opening of the portal makes the ESPN blow to college basketball look like chump change. This hurts everyone except for a minute few teams.

Won’t be long until an elite group of one and done players band together making themselves available to the highest bidder for a shot at an NCAA title.

Good point...didn't think about that happening in college, but this change opens the door for this sort of gerrymandering!

[Rainman66]

The opening of the portal makes the ESPN blow to college basketball look like chump change. This hurts everyone except for a minute few teams.

Won’t be long until an elite group of one and done players band together making themselves available to the highest bidder for a shot at an NCAA title.

It hurts EVERYONE. Look at Duke and Kentucky this past season. You cannot get much more basketball blue blood (literally) than that. Every program now becomes very tactical which leads to boom or bust seasons.

There is PLENTY to justifiably complain about with Marlin, I don't think losing any player in the transfer portal is one of them.

[JMV JustMyView]

Word around the campfire is more UL players will enter the portal soon. This will probably be the final thing that will push Marlin to be fired.

[Turbine]

Word around the campfire is more UL players will enter the portal soon. This will probably be the final thing that will push Marlin to be fired.

Irrelevant issue these days.

The Jordan Brown's of the portal says come on in, the water is warm.

[zephyr]

In a radio interview with Brock Morris around this time last year he said that in the current landscape they are now looking to build a team yearly instead of a program. He also said that with scholarships 1-10 they look to build a starting 5 and bench and that scholarships 11-13 they are looking for guys that are more of projects with the potential to develop. Now due to injuries the past few years we have seen more of those 11-13 guys playing than they would probably like. I still say besides Wilson and Johnson every other transfer in the last 7-8 years would have either been in that 11-13 range or a disciplinary issue.

By the way here is the current Sun Belt breakdown of players in the portal this year.

South Al 9
Texas St 7
UTA 7
Ga Sou 5
ULM 5
LR 4
Troy 4
Coastal Car 4
App St 3
UL 2
Ga St 2
Ark St 0

There will probably be 1,500 players in the portal by the end of the day (1,496 as of now). Roughly 40% of D-1 schools have at least 5 players in the portal.

Thanks. We are fully aware of the number of players in the portal this year. This year has been a year like no other. My comments are in regards to essentially his entire time here as head coach, long before kids got a free agent year this past year with no loss of eligibility. However, I would like to touch on one point you made in regards to the players rated 11-13 that we tend to have to play before we probably want to. Many of those kids are the ones that transfer out of our program whether its due to their choice or not although it seems all too often, its the coaches pushing them out the door. My question is why are you wanting to take guys at the end of the roster to "develop" them if you don't want to develop them? If you know they are projects, and they are actually getting playing time because of injuries, this is the best time to develop them yet we push them out the door seemingly yearly. Doesn't seem to make sense.

[zephyr]

It may take a dozen years or so, perhaps a little longer, but if one and done teams become the norm, it will be the death knell for college sports.

At the very least the connection that four years of accumulated experiences built will be voided.

If students are denied the opportunity to develop a base knowledge of the teams while they were in school, the victim will be post graduate support from alumni.

One and done teams? There are literally a handful of players that come out every year that are considered one and done. That's it. And they typically spread out in college. Kentucky has been as close to a one and done team over the last 10 years or so and they've won 1 national title. I'm not worried about one and done. It was a bigger issue 5 years ago than it is now.

[zephyr]

This is not a true statement, the new transfer rule is getting everyone.

https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Ba...ransferPortal/

Look at the quality of player and quality of teams with players in the portal this year. Just a quick search includes the following without going to deep.

Kansas
Indiana
Kentucky
Illinois
Texas Tech
Memphis
Iowa State
Duke
Oklahoma
Stanford
Virginia
Texas A&M
Marquette
Florida
Oregon

All of these guys are 4 and 5 star players. It is affecting everyone. Their are 173 Guards in the portal, 150 Forwards and 27 Centers, that is a total of 350+ players already in the portal and I am sure more to come. Their are 348 D-1 Basketball teams, so that is an average of at least 1 per team transferring out. NCAA Champion Baylor has a 4 star transferring out, he is a 6'10" Junior that 2 years ago averaged 14.6 points per game. App state who won the SBC tournament ha 3 players in the portal

And up until this year, you didn't really see players leave teams like Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina (hasn't had a transfer out in years) etc.. Sure, some players towards the end of the bench may leave but their core is generally intact. Even guys who are highly rated coming out of high school going to Duke don't typically leave Duke even though they would perhaps be better off doing so.

[STPacronym]

One and done teams? There are literally a handful of players that come out every year that are considered one and done. That's it. And they typically spread out in college. Kentucky has been as close to a one and done team over the last 10 years or so and they've won 1 national title. I'm not worried about one and done. It was a bigger issue 5 years ago than it is now.

One and done is even more so a thing now. Players don't have to be one and done with college and on to the pros. Players will be one and done with a school.