Another MBB player in portal

[CajunEXPRESS]

I think its been a consistent issue here for some time ——-its because we recruited them here and then made the decision they were not good enough and wanted them gone.

This seems true.

[cajuns80]

Please re-read my post. I was referring to graduate transfers. We haven't had one of those in quite some time.

Misread, I agree. Last one i can think of was Brian Williams and he didn’t really move the needle

[Rainman66]

Please re-read my post. I was referring to graduate transfers. We haven't had one of those in quite some time.

Have there been many in D1 basketball that have made a significant impact?

[wscoog]

Texas tech had 2 grad transfers last year that were starters in the national title game. Until Marlin gets the team to play defense it really doesn’t matter.

[Rainman66]

Mooney & Owens I believe. Good pull coog.

[zephyr]

I don't see how this is different from other schools, honestly. In the article, Wichita State was arguably a top 30 team, and they are going to have 7 players end up in the portal.

The quote I think sums it up best is that coaches are forced to build good teams, not programs.

Do I think Marlin should still be our coach? no I do not. However, the argument that his players transfer out at a higher rate or for different reasons than other programs is not valid, in my opinion.

The two biggest reasons for me of him not being retained would be lack of results per dollar spent on him and the staff, and lack of fan enthusiasm/support for the program.

The biggest reasons to keep him, once again in my opinion, is he seems to be a very good human, kids are going to classes and players don't seem to get in any trouble (publicly).

My expectation, is we can find someone that can do the majority of these things for roughly the same amount of money, but that person would still lose players yearly to the transfer portal at a rate of 2 per year.

I guess my point focuses on recruiting. We are often forcing guys out the door because they aren't good enough but our staff evaluated and recruited these players only to boot them shortly after. It's a revolving door that isn't just turned by the players on our end.

I'm not stating that our guys transfer at a higher rate than other programs so there is no validity issue you speak of. We just seem to be as responsible for players leaving as the players themselves.

[CajunEXPRESS]

I guess my point focuses on recruiting. We are often forcing guys out the door because they aren't good enough but our staff evaluated and recruited these players only to boot them shortly after. It's a revolving door that isn't just turned by the players on our end.

I'm not stating that our guys transfer at a higher rate than other programs so there is no validity issue you speak of. We just seem to be as responsible for players leaving as the players themselves.

That’s why it’s not right to blame players who try and fall. They were evaluated and told YOU have the talent to compete at a high level. They soon find out that they don’t.

[talktomewillis]

I guess my point focuses on recruiting. We are often forcing guys out the door because they aren't good enough but our staff evaluated and recruited these players only to boot them shortly after. It's a revolving door that isn't just turned by the players on our end.

I'm not stating that our guys transfer at a higher rate than other programs so there is no validity issue you speak of. We just seem to be as responsible for players leaving as the players themselves.

There has always been an end to the bench. Go back and look at rosters under Fletcher, Evans, Lee. You'll see a slew of players who started here but didn't finish here. The possible exception is Fletcher, who kept players like Ashley Landers and Russ Harris even though they never played.

[CajunT]

There has always been an end to the bench. Go back and look at rosters under Fletcher, Evans, Lee. You'll see a slew of players who started here but didn't finish here. The possible exception is Fletcher, who kept players like Ashley Landers and Russ Harris even though they never played.

Coaches don't control which athletes fail drug test either. You can investigate character has much as possible, but it's not a perfect science.

[Rainman66]

I guess my point focuses on recruiting. We are often forcing guys out the door because they aren't good enough but our staff evaluated and recruited these players only to boot them shortly after. It's a revolving door that isn't just turned by the players on our end.

I'm not stating that our guys transfer at a higher rate than other programs so there is no validity issue you speak of. We just seem to be as responsible for players leaving as the players themselves.

I get that, but you don't know the reasons for why players are leaving other programs as well. Because we are fans of the Cajuns we know A LOT more of what goes on in the program.

My assumption, and it may be wrong, is that the vast number of players are leaving because they are unhappy with playing time. I don't consider that being forced out, but I am guess some could interpret it that way.