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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleast View Post
    Mike, your a die hard MBB fan. Cajuns style. I respect you for that.. I'm a caual fan as I have stated more than once. This brand of MBB over a decade has not moved the needle for ME. But damn I applaud your persistence. You want to believe. Loyal and true.. Props to you. Every sport needs fans like you.. Once again, I applaud your faith.
    Thanks for the compliment. Note I am not certain next year will be successful. I do believe it is a possibility. Also, I don't go to all the baseball games but I follow just about every one. I do believe nothing in sports causes fans not to pay attention more than a baseball team weak at the plate. In the previous few seasons the bats eventually come around. Let's hope that happens again or you will see crowds diminish rapidly in that sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Thanks for the compliment. Note I am not certain next year will be successful. I do believe it is a possibility. Also, I don't go to all the baseball games but I follow just about every one. I do believe nothing in sports causes fans not to pay attention more than a baseball team weak at the plate. In the previous few seasons the bats eventually come around. Let's hope that happens again or you will see crowds diminish rapidly in that sport.
    Fans can be fickle.. sooner or later people have enough of the same old same old. I truly hope for turn around in all our sports. Poor attendance in one hurts the rest..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I’ve seen you rant about this for years but it is just simple math.

    We currently shoot 32% from 3. This adds up to 0.96 pts. per shot.

    In order to get the same points per shot from a midrange shot we’d have to shoot 48% from midrange. We are currently shooting 47% inside the arc, but I promise you our midrange shot percentage is much much lower than 47%. Statistically, midrange shots are nearly as hard to make as 3pt shots.

    When you actually break down the numbers it’s not even close. Even on a bad 3pt shooting team, shooting threes is always the best option.
    Reason mid range shots are not made at a high percentage is because people don’t practice them. Often, you can get an excellent shot from mid range if you set it up properly. For example, Jalen
    Johnson is an excellent mid range guy and should shoot more of them. Lately he has been much better at the elbow than from three

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    The great thing about the mid range is you’re far more likely to get to the free throw line. To me a mid range is anything longer than a layup. I’d be surprised if there’s even four fouls on three point attempts on a typical game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Reason mid range shots are not made at a high percentage is because people don't practice them. Often, you can get an excellent shot from mid range if you set it up properly. For example, Jalen
    Johnson is an excellent mid range guy and should shoot more of them. Lately he has been much better at the elbow than from three
    This is not true. NBA players shoot 40-45% from midrange. I don't have the stats for NCAA but it is probably safe to assume they are in the 35-40% range. But even at 40% you aren't making enough shots to justify taking a midrange over a 3pt shot. Again, it comes down to points per shot. If you are a good college midrange shooter you'll
    shoot 40% from midrange which gives you 0.8pps. Meanwhile even the very worst 3pt shooting teams are still shooting 30% from 3 which adds up to 0.9pps. The bad 3pt shooters are still scoring more points than the good midrange shooters.

    This article is well worth a read: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ed-it-forever/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I don't get upset with whatever people say here as boards like this are for sharing opinions and venting. I get repetitive myself sometimes. For example a repetitive statement of mine that warrants being said again is; those who say that next year will be too late to make a change in basketball are assuming that we can't have a big year next year. Too often that view is presented as FACT when it is only OPINION. If you are so confident that next season won't be a good one, go to Vegas. I also know that at times what is said here has little influence on decisions while at other times it does. The basketball coaching staff situation at this time is not influenced by comments here. In a year, that may be different and that could go either way.
    I may be mistaken but I feel that this was your same message last season as well.

    The message being that we should all stop asking for a better product on the court and support the crap that is being force fed to us fans because the decision has already been made to keep Marlin around.

    So sit down, shut up, and give me your money...ok, I think I got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    This is not true. NBA players shoot 40-45% from midrange. I don't have the stats for NCAA but it is probably safe to assume they are in the 35-40% range. But even at 40% you aren't making enough shots to justify taking a midrange over a 3pt shot. Again, it comes down to points per shot. If you are a good college midrange shooter you'll
    shoot 40% from midrange which gives you 0.8pps. Meanwhile even the very worst 3pt shooting teams are still shooting 30% from 3 which adds up to 0.9pps. The bad 3pt shooters are still scoring more points than the good midrange shooters.

    This article is well worth a read: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ed-it-forever/
    One of the reasons for low mid range percentages is off balance rebound throw backs. Very low percentage.

    A set offense designed to create midrange shots produces much higher percentages.

    They should be counted separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleast View Post
    Fans can be fickle.. sooner or later people have enough of the same old same old. I truly hope for turn around in all our sports. Poor attendance in one hurts the rest..
    Ah the silver lining of disgruntled fans is an opportunity to upgrade seat locations. BT, DT.

    If the baseball keeps imitating Shocking Blue, Steam and the like, sure it will happen there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Thanks for the compliment. Note I am not certain next year will be successful. I do believe it is a possibility. Also, I don't go to all the baseball games but I follow just about every one. I do believe nothing in sports causes fans not to pay attention more than a baseball team weak at the plate. In the previous few seasons the bats eventually come around. Let's hope that happens again or you will see crowds diminish rapidly in that sport.
    Baseball’s actual attendance (butts in the seats) is already starting to immulate it’s batting average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I’ve seen you rant about this for years but it is just simple math.

    We currently shoot 32% from 3. This adds up to 0.96 pts. per shot.

    In order to get the same points per shot from a midrange shot we’d have to shoot 48% from midrange. We are currently shooting 47% inside the arc, but I promise you our midrange shot percentage is much much lower than 47%. Statistically, midrange shots are nearly as hard to make as 3pt shots.

    When you actually break down the numbers it’s not even close. Even on a bad 3pt shooting team, shooting threes is always the best option.
    Your midrange percentage goes up when its an open shot. I'm not anti-3 point shot. I'm anti bad shot. It's not that hard. You talk about statistically but you aren't looking at shot selection. An open 15 foot jumper is much easier to hit and rebound than a contested 3. UNC has won 3 national championships in the last 15 years without ever being a premier 3 point shooting team. They score inside and in transition and then they out rebound you. In the NBA, ALL of the best players in the league are also the best players in the midrange and use it often, especially in playoff time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    This is not true. NBA players shoot 40-45% from midrange. I don't have the stats for NCAA but it is probably safe to assume they are in the 35-40% range. But even at 40% you aren't making enough shots to justify taking a midrange over a 3pt shot. Again, it comes down to points per shot. If you are a good college midrange shooter you'll
    shoot 40% from midrange which gives you 0.8pps. Meanwhile even the very worst 3pt shooting teams are still shooting 30% from 3 which adds up to 0.9pps. The bad 3pt shooters are still scoring more points than the good midrange shooters.

    This article is well worth a read: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ed-it-forever/
    So using your reasoning, why don't we just put up 60 3's per game?

  12. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Everybody needs to face it - there is no money to handle MBB - that is why nothing will happen. Everything else you mention are regular AD type concerns. Right now he has two money issues - MBB coach and Cajun Filed renovations.
    The unfortunate thing is that this decision has nothing to do about money.

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