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  1. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Localyokel View Post
    Which is why a lot of people are losing interest in the game. Who want to watch a team pass the ball around the perimeter 3/4 time and then jack up a 25 footer. It not at all entertaining. I wish the 3 pt. Shot would be banned, so we could go back to the way basketball was meant to be played.
    I agree over reliance on the three pointer tends to make people think the team approach to the game is being lost.

  2. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    I agree, the open shot is the best shot, no matter where it is on the floor. I was just looking at some stats for Jalen Johnson. His 3pt shooting% has dropped from 39% as a sophomore at St. Louis to 27% this season. Now the 3pt line has been pushed back in that time but that is a pretty significant drop. He is also not “jacking up” more 3pt shots here, it has actually slightly dropped from 5.7 attempts per 40 at St. Louis to 5.4 this year. It would lead me to believe he had more open and clean looks in that offense than what he has had here.
    Well his issue is he can't move at all so he has to settle for the 3. He cant get by anyone on the perimeter and he is undersized when he is under the rim. He can make some nifty moves with his footwork inside sometimes but for the most part, he needs someone to create for him.

  3. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    Well his issue is he can't move at all so he has to settle for the 3. He cant get by anyone on the perimeter and he is undersized when he is under the rim. He can make some nifty moves with his footwork inside sometimes but for the most part, he needs someone to create for him.
    He does have some limitations as you point out. However when we set plays for him to get the ball at the elbow he is fairly effective with the mid range shot. We need to do that more often for him. He also is a good free throw shooter as evidenced by him icing the game against Troy. He is more likely to get fouled on that elbow shot than he is shooting a three. I do think coaches believed he would shoot a higher three point percentage than he has. He was very effective from three while on the scout team last season. Has not translated to real games as much as was hoped.

  4. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    He does have some limitations as you point out. However when we set plays for him to get the ball at the elbow he is fairly effective with the mid range shot. We need to do that more often for him. He also is a good free throw shooter as evidenced by him icing the game against Troy. He is more likely to get fouled on that elbow shot than he is shooting a three. I do think coaches believed he would shoot a higher three point percentage than he has. He was very effective from three while on the scout team last season. Has not translated to real games as much as was hoped.
    I agree about his midrange game but like you've stated in the past, coach doesn't care for that shot.

  5. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    I agree about his midrange game but like you've stated in the past, coach doesn't care for that shot.
    In general he does not but he must be more willing to try it now based on plays run for Johnson near free throw line in last two games. Wish we would do it more often.

  6. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    In general he does not but he must be more willing to try it now based on plays run for Johnson near free throw line in last two games. Wish we would do it more often.
    ESPECIALLY with how much zone we see since we are so poor from 3.

  7. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Wrong, again.
    Ummm, no good try though. The decision is not about money, at least not to a significant degree. The decision is about the administration being moderately happy with the program that Marlin runs and the "vote of confidence" that Maggard has given to many stating that the basketball program is on firm ground. People thought it was about money prior to finding out the true buyout amount.

  8. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    Because the highest pps shots come within <5ft of the basket, not the 3pt line.
    That's fine but we only get a handful of them per game. Just eliminate the entire midrange shot selection then.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Ummm, no good try though. The decision is not about money, at least not to a significant degree. The decision is about the administration being moderately happy with the program that Marlin runs and the "vote of confidence" that Maggard has given to many stating that the basketball program is on firm ground. People thought it was about money prior to finding out the true buyout amount.
    Continue to fool yourself. It’s about money and no, he will not say that. So . . . .

  10. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I can't tell you how many 95% shots(uncontested layups)are passed up, and instead the ball is passed to an open 3. Most of those are made, but 95% I'd take every play.
    I agree except I wish it was only so true. I see so many layups and uncontested 8 footers in the lane kicked out for a half contested 3 rather than one that is wide open.

  11. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    Of course midrange shooting goes up when you’re open. And guess what? 3pt shooting percentage also goes up when you’re open.

    An open look from 15ft is only slightly easier to hit than an open look from 3 which is why you try to take the open 3 when you can.

    Obviously nobody has a strategy to take contested shots from any spot on the court. Sometimes the midrange shot is the best available option so you take it, but I promise you almost nobody is game planning to create midrange shots.
    Again, I would disagree that you are wrong in regards to gameplanning for mid range shots. Coaches run plays all the time for players to get a good look, again this is often in mid range. At the end of game, the coach wants to get the player the shot that is the most open and comfortable to them which may not be the 3.

    Also, teams normally are doing what they can to run perimeter shooters off the line more and more so open 3's are less frequent these days than open mid range shots

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