2019 FB G8: Louisiana 31, Texas State 3

[zephyr]

Actually I can. Off the top of my head, the 15 yard out to Williams that he over threw by 10 yards on third down. Other than the throw that you mentioned, he missed Pete 2 other times, WIDE ___ OPEN down the field. He missed Bam on a crossing route (and not the one that he was double covered later in the game) where he just flat over threw him. He had Williams again on a drag early in the third quarter, perfect pocket for like 6 seconds and as soon as someone breathed on him, he started running backwards. There are other times where I can give a minor critique, but some are hell bent on this guy being awesome.

Serious question: When people say things like "some won't be happy as long as he's QB", do you guys really mean that? Do you really believe that fans WANT to kill a player, and that makes them happy? Just from own personal experience watching games with others that played and coached at the D1 level, they mostly agree with the folks that see limitations. People aren't making this stuff up.

I do feel that sometimes people have a need to feel right about a particular person that feel a certain way about. If you don't agree, watch the next time someone gives Levi credit for something. It will be immediately me with " Yeah but ". I don't recall misses to Jackson or the throw over Williams head. I'll go back and look. He only attempted 21 passes and hit 13 of them. He had about 4-5 throwaways so he only missed a couple. Like I said, the only ball I remember him throwing Leblanc was the deep pass that the 20 mph wind ate up. If you want to be upset, maybe call out the coach for calling the play in those conditions or wait until the second quarter when the wind is with us.

Of course I think that everyone wants to win but the minute things don't go well on offense, he's going to get the criticism whether its warranted or not.

[zephyr]

He also turnes it over 4 times in the Mississippi state game and App state game the pocket was clean it was when he rolled out is where he was pushed down

We already talked about the turnovers in that game. Two of them were not on him. Get over it man.

[talktomewillis]

Actually I can. Off the top of my head, the 15 yard out to Williams that he over threw by 10 yards on third down. Other than the throw that you mentioned, he missed Pete 2 other times, WIDE ___ OPEN down the field. He missed Bam on a crossing route (and not the one that he was double covered later in the game) where he just flat over threw him. He had Williams again on a drag early in the third quarter, perfect pocket for like 6 seconds and as soon as someone breathed on him, he started running backwards. There are other times where I can give a minor critique, but some are hell bent on this guy being awesome.

Serious question: When people say things like "some won't be happy as long as he's QB", do you guys really mean that? Do you really believe that fans WANT to kill a player, and that makes them happy? Just from own personal experience watching games with others that played and coached at the D1 level, they mostly agree with the folks that see limitations. People aren't making this stuff up.

He had eight incompletions and four of them were throwaways. I don't think your math adds up here.

[cajun_lannister]

We already talked about the turnovers in that game. Two of them were not on him. Get over it man.

Lmao why are you trying to defend him so heavily most of us have eyes we see that he is a borderline Swac QB .. It's ok Hudspeth was terrible at identifying QB talent it's nothing on Napier he has dealt a crap hand at QB

[ManAboutTown]

He had eight incompletions and four of them were throwaways. I don't think your math adds up here.

I mentioned two incomplete passes in that comment.

Just because he throws the ball out of bounds doesn't mean it's always a "smart" play. And just because a pass is not complete doesn't mean the correct play was made. If we can't stretch the field, we will not beat better teams. He missed Peter and Jalen (and I think Bradley two, but I can't remember for sure) multiple times.

[ULvictory]

Serious question: When people say things like "some won't be happy as long as he's QB", do you guys really mean that? Do you really believe that fans WANT to kill a player, and that makes them happy? Just from own personal experience watching games with others that played and coached at the D1 level, they mostly agree with the folks that see limitations. People aren't making this stuff up.

I agree. I see the same types of statements when the state of the basketball program is mentioned. I would hope that we don’t have fans that would rather watch us lose for fun. At the same time, I highly doubt that the ones raising the questions are just “picking on” the stated entity.

Levi is what he is. He’s elusive. He’s great on the short throw especially on a rollout. And the team rallies around him. Sometimes, I notice he misses open receivers. It happens. But he’s helped us get to a 6-2 record. And I’m good with that.

But I’ll say this. It’s ok if some people see his shortcomings at times. It’s not the end of the world if I get mad that he missed an open receiver on a play. But I will give him credit if he makes up for it a few plays later with a touchdown pass. The kid is not perfect, but he’s not as bad as some claim on here.

Basically, everyone just breathe and enjoy the ride.

[ManAboutTown]

I do feel that sometimes people have a need to feel right about a particular person that feel a certain way about. If you don't agree, watch the next time someone gives Levi credit for something. It will be immediately me with " Yeah but ". I don't recall misses to Jackson or the throw over Williams head. I'll go back and look. He only attempted 21 passes and hit 13 of them. He had about 4-5 throwaways so he only missed a couple. Like I said, the only ball I remember him throwing Leblanc was the deep pass that the 20 mph wind ate up. If you want to be upset, maybe call out the coach for calling the play in those conditions or wait until the second quarter when the wind is with us.

Of course I think that everyone wants to win but the minute things don't go well on offense, he's going to get the criticism whether its warranted or not.

I'm not upset at all. Not even a little bit. I'm just talking about the game. Refer to my response to Jay on the throw aways and misses. When grading a QB performance, it goes well beyond incompletions. I'm happy we can hit slants and bootleg flips, but those are HS throws. We shouldn't ever recruit a player that can't do that.

Again, I have no agenda and I don't care who the QB is. (pretty sure I didn't comment on Lewis before the season began) When I watch the game, I see limitations.

[zephyr]

Lmao why are you trying to defend him so heavily most of us have eyes we see that he is a borderline Swac QB .. It's ok Hudspeth was terrible at identifying QB talent it's nothing on Napier he has dealt a crap hand at QB

It only looks like I'm defending him because someone has to try to keep your unjust criticisms in check. I completely understand he is not the best passing QB around but he can be a guy that moves the offense and wins. The funny thing is that you guys didn't even criticize Nunez like you do this guy and its obvious he runs the offense so much better. Your eyes may need glasses. When guys are getting open and he has time, he's completing passes and moving the team but you guys just won't give him credit. The funny thing is that this team could end up being 9-3 at the end of the year and the last thing we'll hear from you and a handful of others is how bad Lewis is. LOL

[zephyr]

I mentioned two incomplete passes in that comment.

Just because he throws the ball out of bounds doesn't mean it's always a "smart" play. And just because a pass is not complete doesn't mean the correct play was made. If we can't stretch the field, we will not beat better teams. He missed Peter and Jalen (and I think Bradley two, but I can't remember for sure) multiple times.

Actually you mentioned 5.

[Boomer]

Ragas was limited at practice. I'm not surprised he isn't playing. Calais has earned more carries anyway.

What we should be talking about is how limited this offense looks right now. Levi gets spooked way too easily and gives up on the play way to quickly. I don't know if he's told to do that or not. But it's infuriating. Napier's play-calling for a month now, has been... confusing.

Also, Swaggin' U's HOF speech was painful. As was that outfit. Yikes.

.......Why was he not at the game for his intro?

[zephyr]

I agree. I see the same types of statements when the state of the basketball program is mentioned. I would hope that we don’t have fans that would rather watch us lose for fun. At the same time, I highly doubt that the ones raising the questions are just “picking on” the stated entity.

Levi is what he is. He’s elusive. He’s great on the short throw especially on a rollout. And the team rallies around him. Sometimes, I notice he misses open receivers. It happens. But he’s helped us get to a 6-2 record. And I’m good with that.

But I’ll say this. It’s ok if some people see his shortcomings at times. It’s not the end of the world if I get mad that he missed an open receiver on a play. But I will give him credit if he makes up for it a few plays later with a touchdown pass. The kid is not perfect, but he’s not as bad as some claim on here.

Basically, everyone just breathe and enjoy the ride.

I completely agree and that's why I posted what I did earlier because if you go back through the game thread, you would swear that Levi missed every passing target out there. The other thing that just sticks out to me is that many of those who constantly criticize Lewis were defenders of Nunez who absolutely drove me nuts. They claim to be able to see Lewis' shortcoming with their eyes but couldn't see Nunez. Oh well. People are arguing the day after a 28 point win about supposed missed completions from the QB so I guess we're in pretty good shape.

[ManAboutTown]

Actually you mentioned 5.

Actually I can. Off the top of my head, the 15 yard out to Williams that he over threw by 10 yards on third down. - ONE Other than the throw that you mentioned, he missed Pete 2 other times, WIDE ___ OPEN down the field. He missed Bam on a crossing route (and not the one that he was double covered later in the game) where he just flat over threw him. - TWO He had Williams again on a drag early in the third quarter, perfect pocket for like 6 seconds and as soon as someone breathed on him, he started running backwards. There are other times where I can give a minor critique, but some are hell bent on this guy being awesome.

Serious question: When people say things like "some won't be happy as long as he's QB", do you guys really mean that? Do you really believe that fans WANT to kill a player, and that makes them happy? Just from own personal experience watching games with others that played and coached at the D1 level, they mostly agree with the folks that see limitations. People aren't making this stuff up.

I mentioned 2.