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[lcitsh]

_ Lighten up.
Our basketball program has been held hostage by a coach who made a mess of things and then got to keep his job because there was A SMALL CHANCE the situation could become worse. Lee's job is not to graduate people. His job is to educate people. What the kid chooses to do with that knowledge is up to them. By all accounts be did OK on the off the court stuff, but that is not why he was hired. I have never heard you do play by play of the guys going to class.
Lee was brought here to win games. Not only did he not win, but he played an almost unwatchable style of basketball, all the while making ridiculous claims like "we are Sweet 16 material".

I wish no harm to Lee and hope he can resume his career somewhere else, but to me his departure is a cause for celebration. I have loved UL/USL basketball since I was 10 and even went to games when I was a student at LSU or lived out of town. This year I watched one game and listened to parts of two others. I can honestly say I felt I missed nothing. You probably scoff at fans like me, but even when I was a kid I never went to the game wondering if Toney or Figaro were progressing on their course work...I was wondering how many points they would score or if we would win. Sadly, during Lee's tenure we mostly wondered if we would be entertained or how were going to blow a lead down the stretch.

I do think the time to dwell on Lee's incompetence should probably end soon. We will be getting a new coach and we all need to get behind him so we can have the kind of team we all want. _

Thanks for your comments. You made us aware of how little you care for people and how ignorant you are of reality. Please let us know when you lose something of value to you so we can celebrate your loss.

[MetryCajun]

Thanks for your comments. You made us aware of how little you care for people and how ignorant you are of reality. Please let us know when you lose something of value to you so we can celebrate your loss.

[i]igeaux.mobi[/i)
Where did i fall off the realty train? Its not like I wrote him nasty letters or threw a brick through his house. I simply stated I am glad he is gone. If i made any false statements in my post, I will gladly retract them. Lee was given more than enough time to right the ship. It was simply his time to go.
Like i said previously, it is time to look forward and hope we can find the right coach for our University.

[Oiler]

Back to the original subject of this thread, it is very simple. The only loss we should ever have to them in men's basketball is an occasional loss, at their place, that goes down to the wire. We should never lose to them on a neutral court. We did, and Lee is gone. The next head coach has his work cut out for him.

[Oiler]

Back to the original subject of this thread, it is very simple. The only loss we should ever have to ULM in men's basketball is an occasional loss, at their place, that goes down to the wire. We should never lose to them on a neutral court. We did, and Lee is gone. I did not think it would happen. Maybe things will improve.

[BirdofParadise]

_ [i]igeaux.mobi[/i)
Where did i fall off the realty train? Its not like I wrote him nasty letters or threw a brick through his house. I simply stated I am glad he is gone. If i made any false statements in my post, I will gladly retract them. Lee was given more than enough time to right the ship. It was simply his time to go.
Like i said previously, it is time to look forward and hope we can find the right coach for our University. _

Just about everyone wanted a change in hopes that things willl get better.

Your wanting better for the program was never the issue. Your statement that it was "time to celebrate" was.



Personally, I don't celebrate when people lose their jobs.

But, hey, that's just me.

[lcitsh]

_ Just about everyone wanted a change in hopes that things willl get better.

Your wanting better for the program was never the issue. Your statement that it was "time to celebrate" was.



Personally, I don't celebrate when people lose their jobs.

But, hey, that's just me. _

And me.

[MetryCajun]

_ Just about everyone wanted a change in hopes that things willl get better.

Your wanting better for the program was never the issue. Your statement that it was "time to celebrate" was.



Personally, I don't celebrate when people lose their jobs.

But, hey, that's just me. _

As you know words can be taken several different ways. I am not celebrating Lee losing his job, I am celebrating the fact the administration is finally ready to move forward and commit to big time basketball. Except for you and about a ten other people, everyone saw this move needed to be made last year. Instead we limped along to protect ourselves from an unlikely threat. In short UL got a bad hand and bluffed all the way to the river card. I just wish we would have folded on this hand earlier.

[IHateLaState]

Metry is 100% correct... The change should have been made at least a year ago... probably 2 years ago... We have absolutely wasted 2 years when the end result was clear long ago... The only question was when... Programs that are looking to win don't delay tough decisions... they make them and move on...

This only serves to illustrate the lack of competence in this administration.. Those guys are a complete joke

[MetryCajun]

_ Metry is 100% correct... The change should have been made at least a year ago... probably 2 years ago... We have absolutely wasted 2 years when the end result was clear long ago... The only question was when... Programs that are looking to win don't delay tough decisions... they make them and move on...

This only serves to illustrate the lack of competence in this administration.. Those guys are a complete joke _

Part of UL's problem is what makes it special. UL is like a family owned business. This is cultivated by hiring people with local ties and allowing them to move up the ladder by staying loyal to their bosses. The problem is when someone falters, it is very difficult to cut ties with them. Lee is part of the UL family...so is Walker. That is why it is so difficult for the administration make these tough decisions.

[lcitsh]

_ As you know words can be taken several different ways. I am not celebrating Lee losing his job, I am celebrating the fact the administration is finally ready to move forward and commit to big time basketball. Except for you and about a ten other people, everyone saw this move needed to be made last year. Instead we limped along to protect ourselves from an unlikely threat. In short UL got a bad hand and bluffed all the way to the river card. I just wish we would have folded on this hand earlier. _

I don't know if by an "unlikely threat" you mean the mens' basketball players that threatened to transfer if Robert were fired would not transfer or if you mean the NCAA would not penalize our athletic program if those boys did follow through on their threat and damaged our APR enough so that the NCAA would penalize all of our athletic teams. Either way, it's absolutely too great a risk, one that could cost us two, possibly three, of the best coaches this university has ever had.

[zephyr]

_ Part of UL's problem is what makes it special. UL is like a family owned business. This is cultivated by hiring people with local ties and allowing them to move up the ladder by staying loyal to their bosses. The problem is when someone falters, it is very difficult to cut ties with them. Lee is part of the UL family...so is Walker. That is why it is so difficult for the administration make these tough decisions. _

And being part of that philosophy, it's tough for a university like us, in severe financial troubled times and apart of a completely inadequate collegiate athletic landscape due to the obsolete school system from which we operate, the decisions made have to be calculated and void of most if not all discernable risks. In terms of the product that was on the court the past two seasons, the move is absolutely critical and warranted. However, with a football coach that was on the "hotseat" and women's basketball being in a state of distress, making decisions like this are crucial to your financial stability,especially when you are in the middle of several costly renovation projects that you are either starting or finishing. The athletic budget for which we work in is the second worst in the country. The potential private funding dollars available through our local community tend to leak out to Baton Rouge. Many other schools get to run their athletic departments like big business because that 's what they are. We, on the other hand, have to run it like a small business and being a small business owner myself, I understand the difficulty in making decisions sometimes. I'm not saying that I agree with the decisions, or lack thereof that are made, I'm just saying that I typically understand why they are or aren't made.