UL Basketball Coach ... NEXT

[BirdofParadise]

_ Not quite. RPI in the 30's and receiving votes for top 25. Since Rogers took over, the Cajun women have not beat a single team with an RPI better than 300.

Hall's last team is also the only UL basketball team, men or women, to EVER receive an at large NCAA Tournament bid. _

Almost correct. The men got an at-large when Bobby Paschal was coaching. The Cajuns were an independent at the time.

[VObserver]

_ Almost correct. The men got an at-large when Bobby Paschal was coaching. The Cajuns were an independent at the time. _

I forgot about that one, Jay. Guess I'm getting old. lol

Also, let me correct myself. The women's final RPI in 2007 was 54 [per NCAA].
2008 was 287 [a 233 place drop in ONE year!!!]
2009 was 328
2010 to date is 302

It is safe to assume that Rogers is among the worst coaches in college basketball history.

By way of comparison, the men's RPI over the same period:
2007- 270
2008- 180
2009- 266
2010- 244

Lee's record is not stellar, either; but clearly better than Rogers.

[anhil8tor]

How about

Joe Dooley

Norm Roberts

Billy G...

[zephyr]

_ ALSO MARRIED TO COACH K'S DAUGHTER. LOL.

Headragincajun _

Geez, I now lost all respect for coach K. He already looks like a feakin mouse when he's on the bench and complains too much but now his legacy is brought down by Snyder...Yuck. I guess that's just the tarheel fan in me........He can coach though..

[Jason]

Kevin Keathley, was mentioned last year... Don't know if hes a possibility now

[zephyr]

_ Now that is a great qoute, start fresh, because we all will never agree, we want this guy and you want that guy, and when it is all said and done, we will have no say so what so ever, all we will do is either complain or be happy. If is Calipari or Robert Lee twin brother, we need some one who can win, and graduate players, and run a respectable program, and at this level we aint got that much money to hire a great coach. So really lets cross our finger and hope for the best and believe we will get the best coach available. All this is really bull______ talk, we aint A.D or Boosters, so just wish for the best, I remember the best ball when I was H.S in the late 90's, Robert recruited me brieifly, he didnt follow up, and I went elsewhere, but I came home and graduate from USL in 99, and I have fond memories of sitting in Coach Evans office just talking to him, and thats why I wish he would come back, but I know thats along shot, and I will accept that, but bring someone who is better at winning, recruiting and graduating players, and you got the best coach possible, but how long will we keep him.??????? _

There are so many things to say but very little space and patience to say it....Well, first, your comments on Billy Kennedy completely discredit anything following them. Second, to even suggest that Jesse Evans should be brought back is a complete joke. Are you aware of what he did at San Francisco? To keep it short, he took a sebatical in the middle of the season with little reason as to why and no timeframe for which he would return given to his employer all the time while being paid...Again, in the middle of the season....Later, he was terminated because of this and San Francisco had to sue him to get their money back...The guy's a joke and there's a reason why he's not coaching. I have no problems with them letting him go to San francisco those years ago because they likely saw patterns developing that made them say no thanks. He won games but ran a program with little discipline, graduated few players and created an APR mess that Lee inherited. This program is ready to move on and like you said, they need someone to win, graduate players and keep this program's nose clean which is completely what Evans didn't do, except win of course.

You are correct on one thing. I think Robert did a poor job of recruiting local kids and keeping in touch with them. I've heard from several coaches that said they wish he had come around more to visit and take a look at kids, even if he didn't figure they'd have an opportunity at UL, keep in touch and show your face. That's what gets local coaches involved with your program and develops a level of respect. However, Evans fell off the wagon and hasn't gotten back on. You are right, we need to hire someone who will elevate the program as that is the goal on all fronts, I believe the early list of candidates has guys that all can do this. Be patient.

[Turbine]

and created an APR mess that Lee inherited.

I agree with everything you said about Evans except this ^ it simply IS NOT TRUE!

[MetryCajun]

_ I agree with everything you said about Evans except this ^ it simply IS NOT TRUE! _

I think some people think if you say it enough it becomes true. Evans had his flaws, but APR problems were not on his watch.

[Turbine]

_ I think some people think if you say it enough it becomes true. Evans had his flaws, but APR problems were not on his watch. _

I agree

The very misleading phrase that has been bandied about by those that know better is. . .

"Robert cleaned up the mess after Jessie"

The statement in itself is not untrue; it just sends listeners to the wrong conclusion.

The implication is that he cleaned up Jessie's mess when the truth is he cleaned up his own mess. Robert's mess was "after Jessie” but he wasn’t cleaning up Jessie’s mess.

[rhineaux]

_ How about

Joe Dooley

Norm Roberts

Billy G... _

Joe Dooley is a coach that I wouldn't mind seeing get some consideration. I thought that he could be a candidate last year, which is when most of us thought that this job would come open.

Former HC at ECU, 57-52 in 4 seasons.
Current Head Asst under Bill Self at KU.
Ranked as one of the Top Recruiters in the country.
Was a finalist for the Holy Cross job last year.

On the outside, the biggest drawback to him would be his lack of familiarity of the area, but that could be built quickly.

He didn't have great success as a HC at ECU, but does have that experience and has tutored under one of the best coaches in the country for the past 7 years.

His credentials compare fairly well to other names thrown around. He doesn't have a 30 win season as a HC like Kennedy. He does have HC Experience, unlike Pierre, and has worked under a better coach(es). He doesn't have the number of years as a Head Coach like Kaspar, but has experience competing on a level similar to UL (as HC at ECU, and as AC at UNM and Wyoming) and at a higher level as an Assistant at KU.

I guess what I'm getting at is that few of the names thrown out there are significantly better than the others, and if they are better, it will be that much harder to convince them to choose UL over a much larger, richer program. In the second tier, each guy brings something that others don't. None of them really have the full package. But, that is why they're not in the upper tier.

[zephyr]

_ I agree

The very misleading phrase that has been bandied about by those that know better is. . .

"Robert cleaned up the mess after Jessie"

The statement in itself is not untrue; it just sends listeners to the wrong conclusion.

The implication is that he cleaned up Jessie's mess when the truth is he cleaned up his own mess. Robert's mess was "after Jessie” but he wasn’t cleaning up Jessie’s mess. _

Maybe you can tell us when the APR became an issue of enforcement? Evans did not have to operate his program under the APR guidelines that are apparent in the collegiate landscape today if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, he didn't necessarily have a "mess" by NCAA guidelines but Jesse clearly didn't run the program as clean as you would indicate. You also mentioned that while the APR mess was not his, he clearly had his issues. If he won consistently and didn't have APR problems, what were his "issues"?

[zephyr]

_ Personally, if I were going to hire a coach that I knew had baggage, I'd pick Gillespie over Floyd. If Gillispie grabs another DUI, then it will give UL a black eye, but that's it. If Floyd does something shady, then UL will get that black eye and perhaps much more, negating whatever good he did for the program. Secondly, even if Floyd didn't really do anything wrong, other than use bad judgement, he's still been in the middle of this significant investigation with the NCAA, and I would imagine that they're going to keep a close eye on him. With what this school has recently gone through (APR, T-shirt "scandal", etc), I don't know if that makes for a good marriage.

As for Gillispie, Coach Hall recently said that the guy is a ball coach. He's also known as a grinder and has had success in multiple places. I don't even hold the UK stuff against him...I don't think he was what some of the UK Boosters really wanted and there was conflict from the beginning. As for his drinking, he did spend some time getting treatment, so one would hope that he's been able to overcome his issues.

He and Kennedy would be my first choices. Dennis Felton and Mark Gottfried would also have to be up there somewhere near the top. IF Floyd isn't planning to hold out for the Hornets job after this season, and is interested, I wouldn't hate the hire, but I would always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. If either Butch Pierre or Danny Kaspar are hired, I would hope they're several spots down on the list, and only after the first choices declined UL's offers for Major Coaching jobs. I don't think either one of those guys creates the "buzz" that the Athletic Dept says they want. _

That and Gillespie had much less success on the hardcourt and is not necessarily the proven recruiter that Floyd is.