Will 8-4 Be A Disappointment?

[Turbine]

What??

Try following the thread.

The subject was "Hud: Year One" Boomer said Broadway was the best QB. Terrance sat out that year thus, could not have helped Hud get to a bowl game.

Even if he could have played in 2011, as a transfer Broadway was ill-equipped to take over a new team from scratch. Now that is just opinion since we will never know

However with a full year of being an understudy in the system Broadway was still extremely slow out the 2012 gate in part time duty.

In Broadway's first 7 games he had 5 interceptions in a 102 pass stretch ... before getting untracked.

That kind of early play would have cost UL a bowl slot.

[zephyr]

Try following the thread.

The subject was "Hud: Year One" Boomer said Broadway was the best QB. Terrance sat out that year thus, could not have helped Hud get to a bowl game.

Even if he could have played in 2011, as a transfer Broadway was ill-equipped to take over a new team from scratch. Now that is just opinion since we will never know

However with a full year of being an understudy in the system Broadway was still extremely slow out the 2012 gate in part time duty.

In Broadway's first 7 games he had 5 interceptions in a 102 pass stretch ... before getting untracked.

That kind of early play would have cost UL a bowl slot.

Yeah, I did follow and your opinion is why I reacted the way I did. Broadway didn't play part time in 2012. He may have shared some time with Blaine but he played every game and had the majority of the passing yards and attempts.

I'm not really worried about what Boomer said. I was just reacting to your statement that we would not have made a year 1 bowl game. I would disagree. You are right, neither of us will ever know who would have been correct but to suggest that Broadway would have been responsible for 3 less wins than Blaine and Chris in Yr1, I disagree.

[Duckster]

Since 1973 we have won 8 or more games a total of 6 times. And 4 of those have been adjusted down below 8 wins by the NCAA.

So, no, 8 wins will not be a disappointment.

While we're all hungry for more, agree 8 wins this year will be progress. Offense will score a lot of points, hoping for improved defense.

[Turbine]

Yeah, I did follow and your opinion is why I reacted the way I did. Broadway didn't play part time in 2012. He may have shared some time with Blaine but he played every game and had the majority of the passing yards and attempts.

I'm not really worried about what Boomer said. I was just reacting to your statement that we would not have made a year 1 bowl game. I would disagree. You are right, neither of us will ever know who would have been correct but to suggest that Broadway would have been responsible for 3 less wins than Blaine and Chris in Yr1, I disagree.

There is no way UL makes a bowl game with Broadway as QB in 2011 he wasn't ready even if he had been eligible.

Gautier only threw 6 interceptions in his first 417 attempts. A real key to winning.


Broadway threw 13 interceptions in his first 423 pass attempts. Subtract a year of practice in the system and he would have been even worse.

[zephyr]

There is no way UL makes a bowl game with Broadway as QB in 2011 he wasn't ready even if he had been eligible.

Gautier only threw 6 interceptions in his first 417 attempts. A real key to winning.


Broadway threw 13 interceptions in his first 423 pass attempts. Subtract a year of practice in the system and he would have been even worse.

Again, with your own admission you stated that we have no way of knowing. You want to know what Broadway did do? He threw for a 65% pass completion percentage (higher than Gautier) and he ran for nearly 900 yards. HE was the reason the offense was so much more balanced the next year and we averaged nearly 60 yards more per game than in 2011. 2012 and 2008 were our two most explosive offenses that I remember. Again, you can claim there would have been some learning curve for Broadway. I'm not as confident in that as he had spent time at UH and in a system similar to ours. You can assume the rest.

[Turbine]

Again, with your own admission you stated that we have no way of knowing. You want to know what Broadway did do? He threw for a 65% pass completion percentage (higher than Gautier) and he ran for nearly 900 yards. HE was the reason the offense was so much more balanced the next year and we averaged nearly 60 yards more per game than in 2011. 2012 and 2008 were our two most explosive offenses that I remember. Again, you can claim there would have been some learning curve for Broadway. I'm not as confident in that as he had spent time at UH and in a system similar to ours. You can assume the rest.

Those 13 (early on) Broadway interceptions could easily wipe out 800 yards of offense. I haven't/won't run the numbers as to where on the field they occured, but I do know for a fact it killed 13 of his drives.

13 killed drives (as opposed to Gautier's 6) would have prevented UL from getting to 6 regular season wins in 2011.

Mustering 8-wins was an absolute feat.

[zephyr]

Those 13 (early on) Broadway interceptions could easily wipe out 800 yards of offense. I haven't/won't run the numbers as to where on the field they occured, but I do know for a fact it killed 13 of his drives.

13 killed drives (as opposed to Gautier's 6) would have prevented UL from getting to 6 regular season wins in 2011.

Mustering 8-wins was an absolute feat.

13? He threw 9 all of 2012. How early on are you talking. Seriously?

[Turbine]

13? He threw 9 all of 2012. How early on are you talking. Seriously?

Already mentioned. First 400 & a quarter passes for both quarterbacks.

Obviously they each straddle different seasons, but it gives a crystal clear picture of each QB as the main cog.

One had slightly better yards but gave the ball back with no improvement in the first half of year two. As a solo artist he wouldn't have won 6 reg games in 2011.

[Million$Mullet]

Already mentioned. First 400 & a quarter passes for both quarterbacks.

Obviously they each straddle different seasons, but it gives a crystal clear picture of each QB as the main cog.

One had slightly better yards but gave the ball back with no improvement in the first half of year two. As a solo artist he wouldn't have won 6 reg games in 2011.

Wow....hey man, how much weed do you smoke?

[zephyr]

Already mentioned. First 400 & a quarter passes for both quarterbacks.

Obviously they each straddle different seasons, but it gives a crystal clear picture of each QB as the main cog.

One had slightly better yards but gave the ball back with no improvement in the first half of year two. As a solo artist he wouldn't have won 6 reg games in 2011.

But you said that he threw the interceptions "early" which he obviously did not. You tried to make it sound like he threw the interceptions in one clump of time that would have ruined games thus making your argument. This was not the case.