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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Bottom line, the 2011 T.B. could not have done what B.G. did.

    Basically Blaine was the perfect QB at the perfect time.

    Terrance needed to develop, he needed his "sit out" year to grow.

    In his third year of being in the Hud "system" he threw twice as many interceptions as Gautier did in his entire Hud career.

    Only point is, 8-4 is special, and should never be disappointing in a transition period.
    None of this happens in a vacuum. They had different players to throw the ball to, Ladarius green for one. They played against different teams and defenses. Blaine had the benefit of defenses not seeing jay Johnson's offense yet. All sort of variables. Some of the int were in wins, some were in blowout losses. Some might have been like punts or Hail Mary. You can’t just look at stats and get the story, there are circumstances. Not every INT is on the QB either

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    Interceptions have been figured to be worth a negative 4 points on average. Obviously there are bigger and lesser swings to make that average.

    In 2011 UL had 1, 2, and 5 point regular season victories.

    I don't think UL wins those games with a RS freshman in a new system. That leaves 5 wins.

    I think only a Junior ball control slinger like Gautier could have pulled off what he did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    None of this happens in a vacuum. They had different players to throw the ball to, Ladarius green for one. They played against different teams and defenses. Blaine had the benefit of defenses not seeing jay Johnson's offense yet. All sort of variables. Some of the int were in wins, some were in blowout losses. Some might have been like punts or Hail Mary. You can’t just look at stats and get the story, there are circumstances.
    Turbine is failing to look at all the variables. He's only interested in the interception column. They were different players at that time. Broadway was the prototypical dual threat QB. He was our second leading rusher and nearly went for 800 net yards rushing. The offense was slightly more balanced at that time. Also, Javonne Lawson was not himself in 2012 which may have hurt Broadway's numbers. Broadways efficiency was also better than Gautier's. Broadway was ranked #21 in 2012 and Blaine was ranked #40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Interceptions have been figured to be worth a negative 4 points on average. Obviously there are bigger and lesser swings to make that average.

    In 2011 UL had 1, 2, and 5 point regular season victories.

    I don't think UL wins those games with a RS freshman in a new system. That leaves 5 wins.

    I think only a Junior ball control slinger like Gautier could have pulled off what he did.
    A new system is new for everyone.

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    Gautier was the last QB that could see the whole field on every play. The QB before him only saw the TE. Broadway only saw his wideouts.They could all do running backs out of the backfield.


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    Cajuns now at midway point of the season with a 4-2 record somewhat ahead of consensus expectations. Looking ahead at the schedule, will you be disappointed finishing the 12 game schedule with an 8-4 record?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckster View Post
    Cajuns now at midway point of the season with a 4-2 record somewhat ahead of consensus expectations. Looking ahead at the schedule, will you be disappointed finishing the 12 game schedule with an 8-4 record?
    It depends on how we respond next week. If we win, we are 5-2 going into the bye week before homecoming against Texas State. From there, that would mean we would have to lose two games against the likes of Texas State, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Troy, and ULM. Is it possible? Yes. Should it happen? No.

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    Judging by Napier’s play calling in the biggest game thus far of his HC career, anything is possible. He needs to look in the mirror. And this is not a knock on him as an overall HC, because I downright love the man and we are worlds better with him. But some of those calls in that game are SERIOUS head scratchers. I guess he’s human. Time to bounce back, Coach. I believe in you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    It depends on how we respond next week. If we win, we are 5-2 going into the bye week before homecoming against Texas State. From there, that would mean we would have to lose two games against the likes of Texas State, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Troy, and ULM. Is it possible? Yes. Should it happen? No.
    The only way we win only eight games is this scenario:

    Ark St- Win
    TX St- Win
    CCU- Win
    USA-Win
    Troy-Loss
    ULM-Loss

    No way we lose to both Troy and ULM. I see us finishing at 9-3 and playing in the New Orleans Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckster View Post
    Cajuns now at midway point of the season with a 4-2 record somewhat ahead of consensus expectations. Looking ahead at the schedule, will you be disappointed finishing the 12 game schedule with an 8-4 record?
    When the season started, I think most of us would have been satisfied with 8-4 as long as the team continued to look on the upward swing.

    However, at this point, I’m thinking many of us are wanting one more win than that with the remaining schedule and what we’ve seen so far.

    9-3 with a bowl game to possibly get to 10 wins would be nice. 8-4 might be a bit of a letdown, especially if it’s followed up by a bowl loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    When the season started, I think most of us would have been satisfied with 8-4 as long as the team continued to look on the upward swing.

    However, at this point, I’m thinking many of us are wanting one more win than that with the remaining schedule and what we’ve seen so far.

    9-3 with a bowl game to possibly get to 10 wins would be nice. 8-4 might be a bit of a letdown, especially if it’s followed up by a bowl loss.
    That is consistent with my adjusted expectations for this team. This is our best shot ever to get to 10+ wins and that is a huge milestone. Not that my goal matters, but that is my goal for this team

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocCajun View Post
    That is consistent with my adjusted expectations for this team. This is our best shot ever to get to 10+ wins and that is a huge milestone. Not that my goal matters, but that is my goal for this team
    IMHO, the only team left on our schedule that can beat us if we play a clean game and execute is App St. The rest of the SBC won’t beat us unless we play poorly.

    We got beat Wednesday night because they are better at QB and we didn’t stick to what we do best. App played keep away, they ran the ball 53 times to keep their defense off the field. We get 2 more stops we win. I know the refs hosed is out of 2, but we needed to be better on containing Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    ... we didn't stick to what we do best. App played keep away, they ran the ball 53 times to keep their defense off the field.
    If Louisiana does what Louisiana does best, App State doesn't have the same opportunity to run 20 more times than UL.

    Their runs go down, Louisiana's go up and the script is flipped.

    Cajuns win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    If Louisiana does what Louisiana does best, App State doesn't have the same opportunity to run 20 more times than UL.

    Their runs go down, Louisiana's go up and the script is flipped.

    Cajuns win.
    Brilliant....

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    I’m not sure we are good enough yet to beat app state twice in one year. If we gonna split, this is how you want to
    Split the series. Might be a blessing in disguise. Might have been better going into next week as well. Win the west and get to Dec 7th.


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