Baseball Coaching Search 2019

[Dad04]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

You lost me comparing Robe to ML.

[cajunhawk]

You lost me comparing Robe to ML.

Then you missed the forest for the trees.

[Cajun90]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

If Deggs had never set foot on campus here and still had the same story line I have no doubt he would still be one of the top candidates for the position. Before his fall from grace at A&M his resume was already very impressive.

Having a history here only makes it better. The transition becomes so much easier on multiple levels.

I honestly can't think of any other coach that we could potentially attract/offer that would just be way beyond the resume that Deggs brings to the table.

[Dad04]

Then you missed the forest for the trees.

I doubt it.

[GeauxLouisiana]

It is a fact, do you know the difference in pay of Harvel at that time compared to the pay talbot took to replace deggs? Talbot came here in 2015 for a higher paying position than what he would have had in 2013. None of us know the details but just because JT didn’t come here in 2013 or shsu in 2015 doesn’t mean deggs doesn’t think highly of talbot, it could have just been circumstance and most of all, money.

Harvell was a volunteer assistant, so you and I don't know his pay. JT was brought in in 2015 as a paid assistant, but I've never been able to obtain a copy of his contract, so I don't know his pay and you don't know his pay either. I don't think JT came here for the money either. It's not like assistant baseball coaches are UL make 6 figures. Harvell was making $75,000/year at SHSU, so you can use that as a high point for an assistant salary for our program. It's a good possibility that JT was making more outside of coaching baseball before 2015.

[cajunhawk]

I doubt it.

Whatever you say.

[cajunhawk]

If Deggs had never set foot on campus here and still had the same story line I have no doubt he would still be one of the top candidates for the position. Before his fall from grace at A&M his resume was already very impressive.

Having a history here only makes it better. The transition becomes so much easier on multiple levels.

I honestly can't think of any other coach that we could potentially attract/offer that would just be way beyond the resume that Deggs brings to the table.

He's a great candidate, I never said he wasn't. My issue is with zeroing in on him and no one else. The time period of the search seems to suggest as much.

[CajunAlum10]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

I think your points are valid. But, not entirely encompassing of the whole resume at hand. Forget the fact of continuing on our tradition. While that is probably a major focus, the real caveat here is the FACT that the 2 and a half years Deggs was here, the tradition remained, but the intensity and focus of our team escalated greatly. Deggs was extremely instrumental in turning our program back into what we knew it could be. He helped us to become the #1 Team in the nation, something we obviously had never done. While Robe was the HC, don't discredit the fact that Deggs was a major part of that. So he moved on and took a HC job and had immediate success yet again.

So again I say, forget the whole argument of "continuing tradition and not necessarily doing a heavier national search." The fact remains, Deggs would be a huge hire regardless. And he's likely the top target for a bunch of reasons.

[CrazyCajun]

Harvell was a volunteer assistant, so you and I don't know his pay. JT was brought in in 2015 as a paid assistant, but I've never been able to obtain a copy of his contract, so I don't know his pay and you don't know his pay either. I don't think JT came here for the money either. It's not like assistant baseball coaches are UL make 6 figures. Harvell was making $75,000/year at SHSU, so you can use that as a high point for an assistant salary for our program. It's a good possibility that JT was making more outside of coaching baseball before 2015.

So he definitely was making more than Harvel in 2013...so figure in money difference in the 2 positions and his kids being in Thibodeaux and not wanting to be that far away in Texas it’s logical to think timing and circumstance had everything to do with it, not that deggs thinks any less of talbot. If deggs is the guy, talbot staying could also be because of the circumstance.

[cajunhawk]

I think your points are valid. But, not entirely encompassing of the whole resume at hand. Forget the fact of continuing on our tradition. While that is probably a major focus, the real caveat here is the FACT that the 2 and a half years Deggs was here, the tradition remained, but the intensity and focus of our team escalated greatly. Deggs was extremely instrumental in turning our program back into what we knew it could be. He helped us to become the #1 Team in the nation, something we obviously had never done. While Robe was the HC, don't discredit the fact that Deggs was a major part of that. So he moved on and took a HC job and had immediate success yet again.

So again I say, forget the whole argument of "continuing tradition and not necessarily doing a heavier national search." The fact remains, Deggs would be a huge hire regardless. And he's likely the top target for a bunch of reasons.

Cannot disagree with anything you say. The only issue I have is I don't think we are allowing anyone else to knock our socks off by focusing on him alone. Brent Pry-Billy Napier comes to mind. Not a similar situation at all, but the foundation is there. A coach with ties that we all wanted, versus what we got which was honestly a much more impressive hire. Once again, not saying Deggs isn't the guy, he's a great coach, but we aren't letting anyone else take a shot and to me that's a huge disservice.

[CajunAlum10]

Cannot disagree with anything you say. The only issue I have is I don't think we are allowing anyone else to knock our socks off by focusing on him alone. Brent Pry-Billy Napier comes to mind. Not a similar situation at all, but the foundation is there. A coach with ties that we all wanted, versus what we got which was honestly a much more impressive hire. Once again, not saying Deggs isn't the guy, he's a great coach, but we aren't letting anyone else take a shot and to me that's a huge disservice.

Agree if that's the whole truth. But honestly, do you know who Maggard interviewed for a fact? Who's to say he didn't have face to face interviews with 5 or more top candidates? Like you've already said in a previous post, you trust Maggard. So let's give him the benefit of the doubt on this.

[Dad04]

Cannot disagree with anything you say. The only issue I have is I don't think we are allowing anyone else to knock our socks off by focusing on him alone. Brent Pry-Billy Napier comes to mind. Not a similar situation at all, but the foundation is there. A coach with ties that we all wanted, versus what we got which was honestly a much more impressive hire. Once again, not saying Deggs isn't the guy, he's a great coach, but we aren't letting anyone else take a shot and to me that's a huge disservice.

Who is we? Is Maggard "We"? The candidates have been discussed here and elsewhere. If WE is Maggard, please take us all inside the process.